Hannah GraceSometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉
The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉
Lucien@hpod16 the problem is that the same people that don't know will run into lots of UX issues when trying Fediverse. I know a few sadly...
@lucien
I know, I know...
When I first started (a week ago), I struggled with understanding the federated nature.
But I just put out a post to ask questions, and people explained things to me, and I was amazed with the awesome community out here!
I know, I know...
When I first started (a week ago), I struggled with understanding the federated nature.
But I just put out a post to ask questions, and people explained things to me, and I was amazed with the awesome community out here!
@hpod16 I agree 😁 I ended up on Reddit rabbit holes and documentation pages to learn some things. This user type will however not search and if they can't ask their friends or family for help, they give up.
Still, steps are taken to make this process more user friendly, which is great!
@lucien also, you have to bear in mind that when we reply to public comments, it isn't just for the benefit of the one person who commented, but for anyone else who may be lurking in the comments sections.
And: usually you have to hear about a new product a number of times before you try it out. So, many baby steps, one big goal.
And: usually you have to hear about a new product a number of times before you try it out. So, many baby steps, one big goal.
@hpod16 the world was not built in a day 😁 and there's certainly more interest from EU users these days, which is great!
GunChleoc@lucien @hpod16 Facebook users might also be more comfortable with Friendica rather than Mastodon.
Maybe collaborate with Friendica developers to get a good beginner's guide for Facebook users going?
When working on such a guide, it's always good to have the view of somebody completely new to the software like yourself.
beemoh@gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16 I was going to suggest that Mastodon isn't very Facebook-y in how it works and what it's for (being much more Twitter-y in that regard) and ask if there was anything in that way.
Looks like Frendica is it- thanks for bringing it up!
ltning@beemoh @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16 May I suggest looking at #Hubzilla too? It seems to be getting at least as much attention, and even a few shillings of EU money(!). It is, as I understand, a fork of an early version of Friendica. It is a very versatile platform. :)
Jupiter Rowland@GunChleoc @GunChleoc @ltning @Hannah Grace @beemoh @Lucien Maybe it's also worth taking a look at (streams) and Forte, both created and still maintained by the same guy who invented Friendica and Hubzilla.
In terms of privacy, security and self-moderation, they're at least on par with Hubzilla, and they're both nomadic like Hubzilla. UX-wise, they're more streamlined, especially permissions settings, and more geared towards today's Fediverse. Their learning curve is somewhere between Friendica and Hubzilla, but mostly because they default towards privacy rather than everything being public.
However, (streams) has only got a very very few public, open-registration servers and not a single working one in Europe at all anymore. It can't be crawled either, so FediDB, Fediverse Observer and FediIndex don't list its servers. And Forte doesn't have any public, open-registration servers whatsoever currently.
Maybe it's also important to know that their code is hosted by Codeberg in Berlin, but the developer is in Australia.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #FacebookAlternatives #FacebookReplacement #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte
In terms of privacy, security and self-moderation, they're at least on par with Hubzilla, and they're both nomadic like Hubzilla. UX-wise, they're more streamlined, especially permissions settings, and more geared towards today's Fediverse. Their learning curve is somewhere between Friendica and Hubzilla, but mostly because they default towards privacy rather than everything being public.
However, (streams) has only got a very very few public, open-registration servers and not a single working one in Europe at all anymore. It can't be crawled either, so FediDB, Fediverse Observer and FediIndex don't list its servers. And Forte doesn't have any public, open-registration servers whatsoever currently.
Maybe it's also important to know that their code is hosted by Codeberg in Berlin, but the developer is in Australia.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #FacebookAlternatives #FacebookReplacement #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte
Petra van Cronenburg@jupiter_rowland @ltning And this is already much too complicated to understand for the usual FB user! They want to log in, use it intuitively and find masses of people. Even if these parts of the Fediverse might be nice, a big point keeping people on FB are the huge groups.