Wispy2891

More police busts in Italy

https://lemmy.world/post/43655023

Feb 27 at 10:01pmWeb
Show threadtyrantFeb 27
How do they know about these prints?
Show threadphaseshiftFeb 28
First article says a peer reported them after being threatened
Show threadPumaStoleMyBluffFeb 28
That is refreshingly non-fascist
Show threadsauerkrautsaulFeb 28
yeah its just old school snitch bitch action
Show threadkungenFeb 28
There’s nothing wrong with snitching if someone is unduly threatening you.
Show threadWispy2891Feb 28
The article actually said the kid was threatened because wanted to snitch
Show threadNiquarlFeb 28
Still wrong to threaten them. I don’t know about the Italian context but elsewhere there’s been lots LF news about kids killing or maiming people
Show threadDiplomjodlerFeb 28
Of course. But seizing 3D printers will do absolutely nothing to help with that.
Show threadnullrootMar 1
Do Italian police have ridiculously over inflated budget and need to make it look like they’re doing something? Because this really doesn’t seem like a situation that needed police intervention.
Show threadLem JukesMar 5
I mean, they seized the printers the kids used to make the weapons as evidence in the investigation, thats just how that works and has nothing to do with the fact that they’re 3d printers specifically. if they were using any kind of tool or material to produce the weapons, those tools would be seized as part of regular evidence collection.
Show threadWispy2891Feb 28
The article writes as the two kids were printing the toys using the school 3d printer, a third saw what they were doing and wanted to report them, at that point they threatened him
Show threadferretFeb 28
How long until woods is banned from high schools because you can manufacture yourself some premium wooden knuckles
Show threadd-RLY?Feb 28
Wait until they find out what can be done with socks and some rocks inside them.
Show threadNauticalNoodleFeb 28
or a ready-made sack of Valencia Oranges.
Show threadkmartburritoFeb 28
Or a bag of nickels
Show threadnomyFeb 28
I roll the nickles!
Show threadBigDanishGuyFeb 28
I usually don’t put my rocks in my socks to get my rocks off (ತ◞౪◟ತ‵)
Show threadMolochAlterFeb 28

Bold of you to assume that Italian highschools have a shop class, the 3D printer is probably part of the computer lab.

Source: am Italian.

Show threadaltphotoFeb 28

Sir! Put that piece of wood down and nobody gets hurt!

Show threadExcessShivFeb 28

Man how fucking dumb are some of these kids…fucking printing knuckles on school printers!? (These will still break a jaw easily if used) Threatening another kid for reporting them for doing shit they’re not allowed to!?

JFC…

Show threadfilcukFeb 28
13 yo? If they’re anything like me that age, pretty fucking dumb.
Show threadExcessShivFeb 28
Actually making weapons, plastic or not, on school equipment is a whole other level of stupidity well beyond regular 13yo idiocy.
Show threadshadsFeb 28

Well yes, but also no. I went to school with a bunch of dumb asses who used metalwork classes to make “throwing stars”, and half of them haven’t been to prison yet.

I had an electronics teacher help me make “tripwires” to play a prank on a friend at school camp that would set off an airhorn once tripped, it was only after I finished he thought to mention “Don’t use these to trigger anything else, and don’t put the airhorn inside the tent with him.”

Teenagers and sometimes the engineers who fall in to teaching them can be astoundingly dumb and work the challenge rather than think of the consequences.

Show threadParlimentOfDoomMar 5
Eh…your garage door has a “trip wire” your device. They’re not just for traps.
Show threadshadsMar 5
He was aware of the use case. He was told in no uncertain terms what it would be used for and made suggestions around how to conceal the devices. I think we all know that there are certain people who will get so caught up working the problem that they often don’t think about consequences til much later.
Show threadDamageMar 2
I used to make wooden swords when I was even younger than that, and I sanded them until they were sharp. My grandpa would find and snap them.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddamFeb 28
the knuckles article mentions “white weapons”. is that a term of art in italian that i’m too not-italian-speaking to know?
Show threadMolochAlterFeb 28
Yes, it’s the literal translation of our term for bladed melee weapons.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddamFeb 28
thank you
Show threadJocarnailMar 1
To add to this, it is the general term for all non-firearms: so it covers also bludgeons and anything else you swing by hand.
Show threadMolochAlterMar 1

Oh, I was convinced it was specifically bladed, as opposed to armi contundenti.

You always learn something new.

Show threadDamageMar 2
I mean, if kids bring or make weapons at school, what would you expect to happen?
Show threadParlimentOfDoomMar 5
They have scissors at school already that are way more dangerous than that hunk of plastic…
Show threadDamageMar 5
it’s the intent that makes the difference
Show threadLem JukesMar 5
exactly, these is not a “ThEyRE cOMinG FeR OuR PRinTERs!” stories. these are a couple of “some idiot teenagers in italy got caught making crappy plastic ‘weapons’ and bringing them to school to sell or show off to other idiot teenagers and a couple of news agencies picked it up cause it’ll generate clicks” stories.
Show threadLem JukesMar 5

I don’t think these really are the scare monger pieces you’re trying to frame them as. Both articles are very much so about some idiot teenagers printing and bringing 3d printed weapons to school. Police would have seized any tools the kids had been using to produce these items because thats how evidence collection works. Even your story from last month hinges around the items being found in a school.

Don’t get me wrong there are legitimate threats to 3d printing as a technology with proposed legistation in some US states aimed at curtailing 3d printed “ghost guns”. That fundamentally misunderstand the technology and instead are attempting to enforce a censorship mechanic that is entirely unfeasible. But these articles just arent an outcrop of the same kind of thing, IMO

Show threadWispy2891Mar 6
kids have cutters and scissors in their stationery kit and that is more dangerous than this toys. They way they presented the evidence make it look like they seized some meth factory and not “kids underestimated that printing toys that look like weapons and bring them to school is not a good idea”