SatansMaggotyCumFartThe question Joe Biden keeps asking: ‘You think we can actually come back from this?’
Yes it’s definitely Biden’s fault that Americans gave the republicans the house, senate and presidency.
TropicalDingdongFinally, you get it.
Yes it’s definitely not the people who voted for Trump or that decided not to vote at all.
You gave them the options between genocide and genocide. We told you that this would lose the election for the Democrats. You got the outcome you advocated for.
DevolutionGod that argument is so disengenuous. It basically comes to “cater to us a vocal minority or we won’t play.”
You leftists scream about the genocide but what exactly did you accomish? Smugness? Superiority? I haven’t heard a single leftist give a shit about South Sudan or Myanmar. Leftists are quiet when it comes to Ukraine. But you’re incredibly loud about Gaza… you know, the crater where a people used to live because the crap candidate didn’t capitulate to your demands.
Well now everything is fucked, the US has zero creditability, our allies hate us, ICE is officially the Gestapo, and concentration camps are being built.
But hey. Continue the tired ass line about “well we should have had a candidate who was against the genocide.”
Fun fact. Historically, when fascists take control, the first ones they try to stamp out is leftists.
But at least you can sleep at night now knowing that because you didn’t vote for genocide, you now allowed one to be completed with impunity.
Well done tankies.
Its interesting how “we told you this would lose” equates to "you will lose because you alienate leftists.
The reality is voter apathy and a majority of the population choosing not to vote because they see no difference between the outcome regardless of who wins.
Democrats will do the same shit to appease Their donor bosses, they just feel a little bit of shame about the means they think justify those ends. Thats why youll never hear libs talking about somthing like abolishing ice, only better training them so they have less collateral damage.
The people who don’t see a difference are fucking morons. Biden never invaded any US cities.
Obama was the one who started building some of the camps both biden and trump use to imprison migrants. Tell that to all the people whos relatives they deported.
This is what i mean by no i differnce in outcome, because yeah sure the dems are more sly about it, they dont “invade” cities, they let the state governments handle delpoying cops against protests, but they still fund the same agencies with the same agendas, they just have more competency about how to do it without making as much noise.
Yes, dude the majority of American voters are morons dude. The people in this thread you are arguing against are not the same group, we are trying to advocate how to engage that moronic majority.
Advocate for policies that impact their life. Spending billions on Isreal, to fund their genocide or not, instead of domestically is a huge issue that people care about. Pointing out the genocide was pointing to the way the wind was blowing for public support.
ml is full of people who were advocating not voting because Harris wouldn’t condemn Israel loudly enough. Yes, it would be great to focus on improving the lives of Americans but there’s zero chance of that while republicans have a trifecta. Democrats can at least be pressured into doing the right thing sometimes.
Your comment reads like you think I’m a DNC strategist or something. I can’t directly control their messaging, but I can try to point out to people that by the time November comes around there are only two possible outcomes and having a hissy fit about Gaza is only going to make the world a worse place and that “I can’t vote for genocide” just helped the guy who is gleefully embracing all the genocides.
.ml thinks Russia is liberating Ukraine they don’t mind that genocide.
True, but they like to complain about it. If Harris had pledged to defend Gaza they would have just found some other excuse.
No, that would have made all the difference in the world, Harris would have won.
I doubt it.
They were looking for any excuse to not vote for her. The fact that the wedge issue they picked is still worse off under Trump is evidence they never really cared about it in the first place. If they actually cared about Gaza, voting for Harris as the imperfect but better and more readily influenced candidate would have been the right answer.
If she had said the right words on Gaza they would have moved to not being good enough on trans rights or something.
They were looking for any excuse to not vote for her. The fact that the wedge issue they picked is still worse off under Trump is evidence they never really cared about it in the first place. If they actually cared about Gaza, voting for Harris as the imperfect but better and more readily influenced candidate would have been the right answer.
Cool narrative, provide evidence leftists by and large don’t actually care about Palestinians or it is just that, an abstract narrative.
Stop lazily gesturing towards a stereotype of someone to avoid engaging with them.
It’s not any more of a stereotype then making claims about centrists.
So by your logic you are admitting you have no evidence of the massive claim you just made?
No you can look at the results of any vote in modern times and see that democrats are either the most popular party or the second most.
That’s substantial evidence.
That’s substantial evidence.
That leftwing people tend to vote in the general for a Democrat even when they despise the candidate?
Just read through the replies to this post and see all the people who have said the exact opposite of your statement.
My piefed client voyager pit is reply in a different place than the website browser so I feel the need to reply to this again.
.ml thinks Ukrainians are nazis and are actively cheering for Russia’s genocide of them.
This is clear if you spend any time on .ml’s instance.
No I don’t think you’re an operative, but what I see (not just from you but plenty of people in online discourse) is excusing the actions of the Democratic party solely because Trump is bad.
The point that I will continue to shout from the top of the mountains, is that lesser evilism as a political strategy only enables fascism. We cannot counter its rise and current prevalence by just being slightly better. It takes bold impactful direction on how to improve people’s lives to energize and engage the population.
The average voter doesn’t care if a leader gleefully embraces genocide or just tactically enables genocide to fuel the military industrial complex. The outcome of wasted tax dollars to kill children is still the same.
“Well at least democrats aren’t killing Americans” inevitably is the next step of justification. But here’s the thing, democrats don’t use their opportunities to de-miltarize domestic law enforcement. They are responsible for co-opting and killing 2020 BLM demands. They are responsible for folding during the 2025 government shut down and fully funding ICE.
We deserve better. It’s okay to say so. It’s necessary for us to demand it. You and I are not ideological enemies (I would hope).