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@vwbusguy I wonder if android app emulation has gotten any better, that and terrible support for calls/multimedia messages, and speakerphone were my biggest reasons to go back to de-googled android.

@raptor85 @vwbusguy It's surprisingly solid, but unfortunately doesn't cover all apps, most notably many that require certain security APIs from Google services (ie: many banking apps) which is very unfortunate. But besides higher power draw when having Waydroid is running and not all sensors being accessible for the Android app it's pretty seamless. Definitely still early days though.

@l_prod @vwbusguy unfortunate, so it sounds like it's pretty much still a no-go as a primary phone but has come a long way. Has multimedia text messaging at least been sorted out? It was in a pretty sad state last I tried it, you could get some basic SMS and that was about it.

@raptor85 If you mean specifically MMS I don't know, it's not something I use personally and I don't see many people talk about it either so can't even give second hand accounts. I know "normal" SMS work fine, but that's about it. Other messengers with multimedia support obviously depends on the messenger and respective client but generally works.

@l_prod SMS is not very useful outside of just receiving a 6 digit pin from the bank/etc. Other apps are not an option as well, can't very easily just start asking everyone in the US to move to whatsapp or signal because my phone doesn't support what has been the messaging standard here for decades :/

Basically no MMS/RCS in the US means most of us effectively can't use the phone or we can't talk with our family and friends. It's a major blocker from being practical to use in the US.

@raptor85 I didn't know SMS/MMS are still so widespread in the US. The only thing I use SMS for is login codes and even that rarely and I'm not alone in that. In the last year I sent AND received 25 SMS in total, 7 of which were messages to actual people which is unusually many. I can go years without any. Very interesting to hear about these kinds of cultural/regional differences.

@l_prod not so much SMS (it's ancient and basically only a fallback if everything else fails) but in the US it's pretty much all RCS, MMS is the fallback if the phone doesn't support it, which is rare (RCS is the more modern, you can see people typing, have group chats with embedded media, etc, MMS you get degraded low quality pictures, etc). Pretty much nobody here uses other messaging apps other than the built in messenger on the phone. (outside of social media stuff)

@l_prod the only real exception is iphones which use imessage internally but when they talk to an android phone it bridges to RCS automatically (or MMS if you have a much older phone)