So it looks like the #sbcl project is getting sloppified. Very, very saddening to see. It feels like something is slipping through my fingers, so I thought I should say something publicly.

Evidently Christophe is not interested in shutting this crap down, and when I read his email about it, I pretty much gave up on saying something myself. His stance is hopelessly naïve, and this is only being shown now.

As soon as you get these idiots a gap, they'll wedge it open, and it's already happened.

I very sourly remember my own attempt at contributing to sbcl and getting shut down by Christophe, so I don't really care to get myself involved again -- I don't have the energy to be confrontational about it.

If course can be reversed on this, that would be very nice, but I neither have the "project clout" nor the mind to get into a bunch of fights and make myself even less popular to try and steer this ship into a more reasonable direction again.

For now, I guess a preliminary RIP to #sbcl.

I would like to amend: while my experience on the mailing list wasn't great, I have a lot of respect for Christophe and I've always enjoyed all the interactions we've had in person or on IRC.

To clarify my stance a little bit better (and I apologise for not doing so earlier already): I was a bit taken aback by the (in my reading) very lax and hands-off response in his initial mailing list response to the new patches. I thought he would take a stronger stance, which he has now done (fantastic!)

My unpleasant past experience on the mailing list was meant to explain why I don't really want to get involved in the current discussion: I don't believe I have enough "say" in the matter, and in general I'm very sensitive and extremely bad at dealing with confrontations.

I'm sure someone with a bit more social stamina than me could have overcome that initial conflict in my submission attempt, and similarly handled the current discussion with grace.

Anyway, basically:
- Christophe is good people
- I was surprised by his first email
- He has made a much better email now
- I am a coward and a baby