ExtremeDullardAmericans Are Leaving the U.S. in Record Numbers
https://piefed.social/c/politics/p/1819063/americans-are-leaving-the-u-s-in-record-numbers
At least you can be certain the Americans who are disgusted enough with their country to make the non-trivial effort of uprooting themselves are good folks, and they’ll be a net positive for whichever new society they choose to become part of.
redlemaceTrue. Side effect is probably that the usa sinks faster with each good person leaving. Still it’s hard to blame them for leaving.
They get what they voted for.
Well…yes and no. If I recall well, little over 60% voted. Slightly more than half for trump. So a bit over 30% of the american voters voted for this shit. Those 40% that not voted… They could have made a difference but did not bother
They voted as a country. The country as an entity wanted Trump and they got it.
Only the losers in any election starts itemizing. I get it: Trump is about as legit as Hitler in terms of absolute percentage of people who voted for him vs. the entire pool of potential electors.
But that’s not how it works: he won as per the rules of the elections, and now he’s become the country’s choice and its problem.
explodicleTo add: we’ve been voting on how our elections work since 2000. The problem was obvious then and we kept excusing candidates who support FPTP.
RainbowHedgehogOn some level, I agree.
On another, I think of that Canadian who was getting mad at protest voters. Because Canadian sovereignty is so much more sacred than Palestinian sovereignty. Because Canadian rage is so much more holy than Palestinian rage.
I think of that European who called protecting immigrants “a waste of time.” We’re on the brink of WW3! You can’t waste your time helping them! They’re not important!
I think of that person who wanted to call ICE on her Latino neighbor because “Latinos voted for Trump.” They deserve it. After all, so many of them are ICE agents!
I think of those anti-Trumpers who laughed at those Texan children who died in a storm. “They’re from Trump country, they’re just going to grow up to be racist anyways.”
Do children of Trumpers deserve to die? Do Latinos deserve this for falling for Trump’s lies? Do Canadians deserve their sovereignty threatened because they looked the other way for Palestine for 70 years when it benefitted them?
The reason I fight is because I feel that there is something worth fighting for. That people deserve salvation even when they’ve sinned. And I extend that to Europeans and Canadians as well. They refused to stop the US for Iraq and Gaza before and only bother to stand up now that they are personally affected. Do you believe they deserve to have the US turn on them for their sins?
chuckleslord
Slightly less than half the votes cast were for Trump: en.wikipedia.org/…/2024_United_States_presidentia…
I have a friend… A person I know, who is dating a good friend of mine. He’s from California originally. He convinced my friend to not vote because Kamala had “bad policies” when she was an AG. Blah blah pot. Blah blah guns… blah blah excuse.
Now he’s vocal about Trump’s policies, blah blah guns. Blah blah free speech, blah blah ICE.
I’m like mofo do you even hear yourself? She wasn’t perfect. She made mistakes… But nope couldn’t vote for the woman.
Shits infuriating.
It’s perfectly legitimate to vote third party in a non-swing state to express your disgust with the state of The Democrats. However, doing that in a swing state is basically just punching yourself in the face.
In no case should you choose not to vote because that registers as apathy rather than disgust with the choices.
So they both voted for Trump. There’s no debate. That’s what happened.
Every abstained vote is a vote for trump, so 68% of the country voted for Trump.
Asinine reasoning. If Harris had won, they’d all have been a vote for her.
No, if literal Hitler is running in the election and you don’t vote, the vote counts for Hitler.
Trust me when I say I have wrestled with this for a long time now, having to live among people who either voted for the fascists or didn’t vote at all. There are a few key factors in the US that just don’t make it that simple:
- Our population is heavily propagandized to accept fascist behavior and rhetoric as normal, or even patriotic
- People in lower socioeconomic neighborhoods/cities struggle to see much of a difference between the parties because they are often living under full time military-style occupation by their local police force, even when their local government is run by Democrats. The tactics ICE is using against middle class white protestors are not new. They’re just new to middle class white people
- A lot of people with multiple kids and jobs, especially in states controlled by Republicans, are not reasonably able to vote because they don’t have the time and their state/local governments go out of their way to make it difficult
But they didn’t, and she didn’t, so they weren’t.
If you go from abstaining to voting for Trump, then you’ve voted twice!
A lot of people wanted to vote but couldn’t because they were purged off of voter rolls.
Nope. Less than half voted for Trump. He didn’t even have a majority of people who cast a vote for president. And a third of the country isn’t eligible to vote due to age.
So just under 20% of Americans voted for him.
mercThe 40% that didn’t vote would probably have also broke 50/50 for Trump vs. Harris if they’d bothered to vote. But, most of them probably live in states like Massachusetts or Wyoming where one party’s lead is so huge that their vote really wouldn’t have had any effect.
Stop deflecting and trying to blame non-voters when the real problem is the people who voted for Trump.