If every school shooter in America targeted an Epstein client pedo instead, the problem would be fixed in a few years...

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If every school shooter in America targeted an Epstein client pedo instead, the problem would be fixed in a few years... - Lemmy.World

They’d also be more famous and considered anti-heros, like the punisher, instead of cold blooded child murderers no better than the Epstein class.

Clients and billionaires (they’re the same picture)
Just gotta convince all these boys they can’t get girlfriends in their cohort because rich billionaires are too busy buying and trading and discarding them like pokemon cards.
The ironic thing is that that is totally actually a factor.
It’s not, really. Purely on numbers.
I’ve been listening to the behind the bastards about epsteins involvements in pushing people to the right online and it absolutely is a factor on a very base level. Creating these right wing incel types on purpose. Dude convinced MOOT to create /pol on 4chan, among many other things.
That just makes edgelords, doesn’t mean there is a lack of actual women around because they are all on the island
I’m not saying theres a shortage of women.

Do you actually believe incels are not finding a woman because there’s a shortage?

I think it’s more likely than not because they have disgusting opinions about women, are too shy to talk to them, or are right wing nuts nobody wants to deal with.

Er, that is literally what is happening.
It is a factor with some nonzero impact overall, yes. But the average town won’t see any of that. They’re all concentrated at capitol cities and vacation areas. So if some rando guy in rando city is wondering why no women within 5 miles want him, the elite are not on the minds of any of his prospects.
Unfortunately that just makes them shoot the women instead as punishment for being ‘whores’.
Can’t you just show them all the love Luigi is getting? Seems like a good motivator.

rich billionaires

As opposed to poor billionaires?

With the number of school shootings here, I think it’d only take weeks.

Well, approximately 288 unique clients have been identified this far.

So probably more like a month.

But there is a good possibility that we could find further pedophile networks; as it appears that they might have had multiple suppliers that would poach Epstein’s trafficked children and compete against him.

But, the cops would actually intervene, then.
Suddenly there would be sane gun laws in the US.
In minutes they’d call every such killer a “trans extremist” and soon after they’d disarm trans people entirely. They’ve been itching for an excuse to actually do that one.
They can’t possibly stop school shooters, but they’re definitely going to try to stop wealthy pedo shooters.
I’m surprised there haven’t been more shootings of the wealthy since Luigi given the positive response to him shooting a health care millionaire.
Oh I guarenfuckentee that a lot of corporate SOPs immediately got updated. Internal memo saying, “why the fuck were we holding meetings in this shithole anyways?”

Oh, vigilantism against targets that weren’t even “verified” until recently.

However wrong I think your idea is; shooting up anything other than kids would be great.

It’s certainly a dystopian failed-state ass take on a justice system, but I’m sure that if the 99% were given the choice between a school or health insurance board room, they’d pick the corporate parasites 100% of the time.
Stick to billionaires and the chances of a false positive drop to 0.

That really relies on their ability to accurately identify a pedo. The moral panic in which people are being called pedos for anything and nothing is still going on even though we have learned that the Epstein conspiracy was huge and horrible.

Now if they only targeted the people heavily present in the files, yeah probably they’d be seen as heroic

Just decide that anyone with a net worth over a certain amount is a pedo, and if they don’t want to be labeled and hunted as such, they need to publicly denounce the other rich pedos.
Also donate all personal wealth in excess of $50,000,000 to The Sovereign Fund for Humanities Poor.
Anyone over a certain networth is evil of some kind anyway, so pedo or not it’s still a safe bet.
Maybe we can meet halfway and target billionaires instead?
I’m all for returning fire in the class war, I just really don’t want everyone the populist right accuses of pedophilia to get attacked, because that’s everyone.
MAGAs are ALL pedos.

Most MAGA are just dumbfucks who would change their “values” 180-degrees if given the right emotional narrative to follow, they’re literally just children themselves, clad in machismo and vile rhetoric.

The evil pedo-aligned people who need to be targeted (with legal repercussions) are the grifters and pipers all over youtube, twitter, cable news and radio.

We really need to be careful about this "kill all pedos’ narrative while living in a climate where they are working feverishly to label basically anyone they don’t like but especially LGBTQ+ people as “pedophiles.”

MAGAs are all Pedophiles. I won’t pretend otherwise because you’re afraid of what they MIGHT do in response. Surrendering in advance is what got us here.

ALL MAGAs are Pedophiles, and it’s time to get on board with it. I’m really, really sick of this Liberal obsession with being POLITE to literally the most evil people on our planet. They are psychotic, they hate us irrationally over their own fantasy bullshit, and they literally want to KILL US ALL!

Stop demanding that we be polite to them. GET ANGRY!

Stop demanding that we be polite to them

This is entirely projection about what I said, I am not a liberal nor advocating for being “polite” I am simply warning you that these “All X’s are pedophiles” is dangerous rhetoric that is just black-and-white as their rhetoric so beware. There are very good reasons we need to be smarter than them. Re-read what I said exactly and take a breather. I know how frustrating it is, but this isn’t a tit-for-tat game or we end up in ruin and violence and without a “good guy” side to fall back on.

Whatever happens, we still have to live next to millions and millions of people who you might label so casually so we need better solutions and not dividing lines. If Trump dies tomorrow, all of these people will be desperate for a new narrative, and we can USE that energy to push them in the right direction and get actual movement to attack capital… or we can get vindictive and stuck in the trenches arguing about fucking words with a group of people who won’t remember your argument tomorrow. Let’s be smart.

History should be a very glaring example of how this can go bad if you think with your feelings instead of thinking about your feelings.

I’m NEVER going to forget that these people abdicated their civic responsibilities to indulge their worst natures, and enthusiastically embraced treason, racism, and pedophilia. I own a business, and I will never allow a MAGA into my company, to interact with my good employees and customers. If one moves in next door, I will be civil, but I won’t be friendly. No invites to the backyard barbecue.

Yeah, I’m going to hold a hard grudge for the rest of my life.

The people who started calling other people pedos were all pedos themselves, it’s called a diversion
Start with the biggest one please
Ironically that’s how you get the right to toss away 2nd amendment into the swasticar-dumpsterfire
Vigilantism isn’t sustainable.
There are only around 3000 billionaire’s globally so you’re right, that’s a population that could be hunted to extinction rather quickly. Not very sustainable.
They have heirs who have been raised to be as Sociopathic as their parents were. We have to end bloodlines, and confiscate fortunes.
It’s weird this hasn’t really happened, given how a lot of people do it for attention, but if you’re just one of a dozen others that month, what attention are you getting?
In a similar vein, if you’re trying to protest the power structures by looting and burning buildings and you see a 7-11, turn left. Keep turning left until you come across upscale detached residential buildings, with private drives and gates. Then resume the riot.

If you keep turning left, you’re just going to go around and around in circles, LARPing NASCAR.

Everything else seems right. Do unto the rich what you would like to do unto ICE.

Every mention? Im pretty sure epstein had circles so for certain every one would not be a pedo. Heck not every one would even necessarilly be a rich asshole although most would. I mean there would certainly be greater tragedies than that.
Go for volume, get it done quick.
The sad truth is that killing a bunch of kids is much easier than killing a single wealthy person.
Which is how the wealthy like it
Nah. They just need to be smarter about it. Tell them to target Bohemian Grove. I hear it’s packed once a year…
What’s that?
Another witchunt believer…
Another pedo protector
Sir. Please direct your complaints to the Vatican
Unfortunately, child murderers have more in common with child molesters than with children.
Most of these particular child murderers are children themselves.

School shooters are largely children, for whom it is much easier to steal daddy/mommy’s gun and go to school than it is to:

  • steal the gun
  • pick a cromulent target
  • acquire info about the target
  • actually travel to wherever he is
  • get past the probable armed guards
  • get close enough with the gun to kill the guy

Like it’s not impossible, almost nobody is completely untouchable, but one is clearly easier than the other. I mean like you’re not wrong, but good luck with that, it’s not likely.

Would still get kills regardless if they go in expecting to die and unlike with killing children if they do somehow live after the whole situation they’d have earned a good bit of glory and respect. Also they could always go after closer lower profile but still notable targets, IE megachurch pastors or local political backers.

Thing about schools though is they’re less guarded than rich dudes (1-2 cops max ime, meanwhile rich dudes have generally 2-3+ but also of course the rich guy has less square feet to cover than a school, the school cops can’t be everywhere, and the rich security only has to watch him). Furthermore the school cops are uniformed, you can just start with them while they’re not looking and now you have at least 5min before more cops even get there, then however long it takes them to “establish a perimeter” and then go in, which could be 7 min or it could be, what was it in Uvalde, 2hr?

Megachurch leaders are for sure more accessible, but you can’t actually fight them that way, by making Pastor Steve a martyr, all you do is let his successor Pastor Mike use it as fodder while taking his congregation. You have to fight them by helping the followers themselves, which is tough (especially since people seem to actually hate the followers instead of recognizing them as victims who were vulnerable being taken in by a charlatan.)

While I agree generally I’d like to point out that a lot of these rich people will have gaps in their security that could be exploited. Something as simple as running a 2001 Honda Civic through a fence and through a crowd at the right time could probably get you Musk for example.

But then we start getting into the questions like is collateral acceptable. Which given the fact I think the IRA did only one wrong (not killing Thatcher) you can guess where I fall.

As for mega churches. Yeah I ain’t got a counter, I’m from that fun breed of Southern Californian where I think the only way to deal with a cult is to commit a crime against humanity, so yet again can’t really add on past just killing a pastor, the upper leadership, and administrative elements.