DVDs are the new vinyl records: Why Gen Z is embracing physical media

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If you don’t hold it, you don’t own it. Unless you take the DVD from them, you can’t remove their access to the movie stored on that disc.
Technically network connected blu ray players can be updated to region lock you out of your content.
So don’t connect them to the Internet

Yes, just being pedantic with a risk that people don’t think of.

I think the blu ray secret keys leaked so you can rip them anyways.

Normal blurays are easy to rip. The 4k ones need a drive with hacked firmware.

Sony had this bullshit on the ps3 which muted you playing certain sony media. Cinavia

That’s completely bullshit. I can’t hold any of the thousands of videos on my NAS, yet they can’t remove access to them.

You can’t hold your NAS? It actually weighs very slightly more with data on it.

DVD have already polluted and currently exist and are rotting, and need to be ripped to longer term storage, especially for media that is becoming lost and needs a custodian to host so it can be pirated online. A lot of things cannot because no one has it, but it still exists in physical form.

Hold in your had = physical access.

NAS counts

DVD and especially blue ray still have DRM and license terms, which . means you still don’t own it. Only way to own media is to pirate it
Yeah, that’s a fair point.

license terms

In most places ownership laws make those licences unenforceable - not in the legal sense, but practically - hard to lock you out of a DVD.

Great option for those still politically opposed to pirating stuff.

Yeah because i want to own when i buy things
I’m happy to just pirate this shit.

I don’t buy band media anymore but I do go out to live shows and buy t-shirts and other merch like nobody’s business.

Record company middlemen can take a hike.

I do go out to live shows and buy t-shirts and other merch like nobody’s business.

Who doesn’t love a cool band t-shirt?

- My wife, just before she stole my band shirt
In fairness, she looks better in it
In fairness, I only bought the shirt in my size so that it would be comfortable for her to sleep in. I never actually planned to wear it. Shame that it’s a fucking Disturbed shirt and that I wanna set fire to it.
at least she didn’t grab the limp bizkit shirt that your older sister gave you in ’02
I mean, we could burn both of them
Yeah revolutionary concept

People! Try Yt-dlp, when spotify decide to make Spotify Developer available again, then yt-dlp plugin integration with spotify, still, in anna’s archive i think they will make available if not already the hundreds of TBs of metadata and songs managed to get from Spotify so media preservation and ownership will also be in the digital space

Lets also put “quitting your job” on there because thats what i see a lot of ppl not doing because they feel bad about it
FYI, Tidal is approximately the same price as Spotify and there are several tools floating around on GitHub which will allow you to download high quality flac files from that service.
For families, Tidal is even cheaper. But it’s majority owned by that Twitter asshole Jack Dorsey. Just another fucking billionaire.

3D printing your own guns

Just buy a normal fucking gun, this is America ffs there are more guns than people.

Yeah. 3D printing a gun is a great way to blow your hand off.
Don’t 3D printed guns have normal parts except for the slide and handle which are 3D printed?
Some people make their own barrels with electro chemical machining. But that’s usually for people who can’t get their hands on parts.
We’re not all Americans.

What are you, Swiss? Australian? Irish?

The same applies.

Planet is choked with guns. They’re everywhere and very easy to get. Absolutely no reason you need one that’s been churned out by a printer you got on Temu.

3D printed guns are being used by rebels in Myanmar. They are valid weapons capable of fighting in a war and far more powerful than anything I could legally get in my country.
I’d have no idea where to get a gun in Japan. I’d rather just 3D print one if things got bad enough.
That’s hilarious.I’ll 3d print that toy lmao
Oh awesome the memes are proliferating.

I totally get it. Kids missed out on everything good.

Too bad DVDs and CDs will quit being made soon, and disc rot sets in on most discs in 20 years. Luckily mine have survived. But make backups. Although that’s why “they (the rich)” want to drive up the price of HDDs so we can’t afford it, so we are tied to their cloud systems forever.

Good luck young people !

Properly manufactured Audio CDs are actually quite resilient, obviously not so much to scratches, but out of all my 100+ CDs (I’d say half of which are older than 25 years) only one has disc rot and that one is a pressing made by PDO who’re known for their bad pressings that are prone to disc rot.

I don’t really store my CDs in a special way either.

The life span of CD/DVD is not on the printed media but on the media we make/made our backups on. Of my many spindles from back in 2k (some disks are almost 25 yrs old), so far maybe 5 disks have gone partially or completely unreadable, lucky I didn’t lose much. Baring scratches or other physical damage, the printed disks will last decades where my disks have outlasted prediction
CDs were so much better for my kids than any other digital player. Especially when they couldn’t read yet. It’s much easier to choose a CD and put it into a player than opening an app to search for something.
And gets them away from screens!! We don’t need more screens in today’s world.
I’ve used CDs with my kid for music, it works well for us too

Too bad DVDs and CDs will quit being made soon

We’re still making vinyl records. What on earth makes you think we’re going to stop making DVDs?

Vinyl has hipster vibes and false audiophile claims. CDs and DVDs dont. They won’t be profitable in a few years and then bye bye factories. Just like vhs. I’d still be buying vhs takes if they made them but they dont. Same with CRTs.

They won’t be profitable in a few years

I just don’t know where you get these claims from

History. They don’t make vhs players or CRTs now do they? Even though they had huge benefits to modern (vhs, recordable and durable, CRT, durable, repairable, instantaneous response and perfect blacks) digital convenience trumps all for the majority population. Its also about control. You literally cannot buy a non smart TV any more (OK fine, digital signage, but you won’t get a remote) and some of them will not even function unless you connect them to WiFi. Hekk no.

They don’t make vhs players or CRTs now do they?

There’s an enormous inventory of New Old Stock and refurbished units that more than meet demand.

You literally cannot buy a non smart TV any more

That’s absolutely not true. The real limit on Dumb TVs is the size. Emerson and Westinghouse both make dumb TVs, but they cap out at 50".

Wrong, CRTs are getting very hard to find now and people smash them for fun. 10 years they’ll all be gone or many thousands of dollars.

Where did you find those TVs? I’d like to know!

CRTs are getting very hard to find now and people smash them for fun.

:-/

Surely you see the contradiction

that’s why “they (the rich)” want to drive up the price of HDDs so we can’t afford it, so we are tied to their cloud systems forever

That seems like a reach. Hanlon’s says they’re just buying HDDs for their Artificial Imbecile service.

Maybe, but its not surprising that it fits their agenda perfectly. Build the slop generator and make it impossible for the population to own their means of computing. Future computing will be a dumb terminal on bezos net, and you will be an ostracized weirdo for not using it.
its still declining, just slower

I wonder why specifically DVDs… It’s not like with audio formats where the experience is almost as or even more important than the quality; Blu-Ray delivers far better quality with the same experience. If they were into Laserdisc I’d understand, but DVD?

They’re not even that much more expensive. Maybe the initial cost of getting a player is higher?

Personally I never upgraded from DVD to Bluray because of the costs and DRM. And while I waited for those to be solved streaming got good enough.

Perhaps these kids’ parents are the same, so they just use what they have.

Or the article’s author just calls every video disc a DVD.

But both formats have DRM and sometimes the Blu-ray is basically the same price or even cheaper. Sure DVD was easier to crack but that’s not an issue these days.