Ron Gilbert (GrumpyGamer)I've gotten too used to the silent Mac Laptops. Struggling to find an equally silent laptop I can use for Linux (and buy in NZ). Why does Apple have to make awesome hardware and also be a horrible company. Distros that work on Mac hardware are too experimental right now, don't recommend them. I know all about them. You're wasting the limited amount of typing you have in this life.
Fuchsiii~~~@grumpygamer I recommend giving the current best Notebook reviewer on YT a visit (https://www.youtube.com/@JustJoshTech/videos). The newest chips from intel are supposed to be rly close, nothing on linux support yet thou.
Kevin Karhan 
@fuchsiii @grumpygamer yeah, #JJT sadly doesn't really go beyond the out of box experience…
- Which is understandable to a degree but on basically all the devices his crew tests there are NVMe slots so they could just pop one in and benchmark it without fiddling with #WinShit!
@kkarhan @grumpygamer I meant the Linux support of Intel Panther Lake. x86 is just now slooowly starting to catch up to Apple Silicon and for ok Linux support you need to wait at least a year (plus use a very up-to date Distro like Arch or Fedora)
@fuchsiii #WhatsMissing are #fanless #Laptops with decent power in the <10W envelope with decent screens.
- Pretty shure @grumpygamer would be fibe with some modern embedded/industrial/ULV chip as long as it stays quiet, has enough oower under the hood, and doesn't come.with an insultingly high price tag.
@kkarhan @grumpygamer seeing that his use case is for sure compiling C/C++ all day absolutely not
@fuchsiii @grumpygamer unless his workflow would basically use an external machine (i.e. Server), tho obviously a THICC Workstation with enough thermal mass to simply suck up bursty loads like that would be easier to maintain than two.
- Obviously New Zealand is kinda shafted as location cuz it's "off course" from main trade routes and a small market.
@kkarhan @grumpygamer Josh is actually starting to test Linux even if only for "works" or "does not work" excluding performance and such, but that is a lot more than your typical review outlet will do so...
@fuchsiii @grumpygamer yeah, most just do the "Out of Box Experience" and that's it.
@kkarhan @grumpygamer Most don't do Linux at all. If you are a Linux channel you 100% don't have the reach for common brands to send you review units, and if you're not a Linux channel why bother? Just Josh is already an outlier for bothering to install Linux and say what worked and what didn’t.
@fuchsiii @grumpygamer and that's really sad.
- Espechally since the next big channel, #LTT, really didn't bother since @emilyyoung left…
@kkarhan @grumpygamer @emilyyoung they didnt rly bother before ether... linux was always religated as a topic to “look at this server that costs as much as a sports car" or “look at this wierd thing that makes you look like hackerman™, isn't that funny!" videos
@fuchsiii @grumpygamer ti a degree, you are right.
I still like @emilyyoung 's scripts.
I wish she could release her #SSD benchmark she wrote for the "Fattydove Racing SSD"…