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MAGA Women Shoot Themselves in the Uh, Foot. Again.

https://lemmy.world/post/43540513

Feb 24 at 10:22pmWeb
Show threadOptionalFeb 24

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Show threadFiniteBanjoFeb 24
TBF the betting platforms had higher accuracy than aggregate polls in 2024.
Show threadFlexibleToastFeb 24
I definitely trust the prediction markets more than just about any poll.
Show threadFiniteBanjoFeb 25
IDK about that, but credit where due they aren’t a terrible source.
Show threadchuckleslordFeb 25
Nah, I once made a hundred bucks because they had Doug Jones losing to that pedo. They’d just as fallible as anything else.
Show threadFlexibleToastFeb 25
I mean, nothing is 100%.
Show threadGathorallFeb 25
Well, nothing anyone would allow you to bet on.
Show threadspencerwiFeb 25
Why would I need Steve Kornacki or whoever when I’ve got degenerate gamblers?
Show threadFishFaceFeb 24
Betting platforms aggregate the beliefs of the people betting on them, but this means that biases of that group affect the odds.
Show threadFiniteBanjoFeb 25
People who receive and respond to polls are also a subset with biases.
Show threadmycodesucksFeb 25
That’s true, but also a group that has a real and vested interest in getting the answer RIGHT. That helps.
Show threadJeenaFeb 24
Easy solution, just don’t marry anyone with a different last name.
Show threadOptionalFeb 24
Hmmm
Show threadcircuitfarmerFeb 24
That’s how MAGA does marriage, usually
Show threadXFeb 24
Might go a long way in explaining those long jaws they frequently have
Show threadNatakuNoxFeb 25
Show threadkryptonianCodeMonkeyFeb 24
Found the Kentuckian
Show threadbetterdeadthanredditFeb 25
[Sweet Home Alabama intensifies]
Show threadTheEmpireStrikesDakFeb 25
I get the joke, but is it really so rare in the US for a woman to keep her own surname after marriage?
Show threadWhatsHerBucketFeb 25

It’s actually pretty common for one person to take on the other’s last name.

My partner started out keeping hers, then took my last name after getting hassled over her name not matching our son’s in various situations.

This would make voting difficult for her.

Show threadAA5BFeb 25

That was the point elsewhere here that it would hurt republicans more.

  • republicans tend to be conservative, older, so are more likely for the woman to have changed her name
  • democrats tend to be more liberal or more progressive or more educated, all of which are more likely for the woman to keep her name when getting married.
Show threadminorkeysFeb 24
They’ll go after each demographic whose voting habits favour democrats: Immigrants, women, educated, non-christian, poor, lbgtq+, young, non-white. Whichever ones you belong to, makes you a potential target of voter disenfranchisement.
Show threadOptionalFeb 24
Wait til you hear why they created a “war” on “drugs”!
Show threadtino_408Feb 25
As a non white lol why can’t I vote? I’m a legal citizen I will have no issue. I would like to know what rights the whites have over me?
Show threadSerinusFeb 25

Rights? Have you been paying attention?

They’re blatantly and regularly violating the first, second, fourth, and fifth amendments whenever they feel like it.

They’re absolutely going to have ICE around harassing anyone they think might vote blue, particularly people of color.

Show threadBarneyPiccoloFeb 25
You aren’t wealthy enough to have rights.
Show threadtino_408Feb 26
What rights do people wealthier than me have?
Show threadBarneyPiccoloFeb 26

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, to start with.

Grow up.

Show threadtino_408Feb 26
Lol so your answer is a catch phrase. Cause I notice the harm of using my people as a political football. This is why the part system is fucking stupid. Your fans just trying to help your team not the actual people
Show threadBarneyPiccoloFeb 26

It’s NOT a “catch phrase,” it’s literally the opening of the Declaration of Independence, in which it is declared that our nation is founded on the concept that we have been endowed by GOD to have the INALIENABLE rights to Life, Liberty, and the a pursuit of Happiness.

Its not a catch phrase, it’s literally the foundation of American Democracy.

You have proven your ignorance for all to see. Stop talking now.

Show threadtino_408Feb 26
It’s feels weird Dems assuming I have less rights than them based on my ethnicity. What’s worse is I feel like Dems are trying to come from a good place with a good heart. But it’s starting to scare me that a group of people are ok with Latinos becoming second class citizens. As an illegal immigrant you can’t join a union or big company to get a good job. It’s causing illegal immigrants to have no choice but to take this jobs to survive.
Show threadfulcrummedFeb 25
Show threadgalacticbackhoeFeb 25

You don’t know if you won’t have issues or not. Their whole goal is to create issues.

Live in a black area of a county in GA? Close down the polling station.

Look Hispanic near a polling station? Maybe ICE tackles you and arrests you for no reason.

Woman and your name doesn’t match? No vote.

It’s really not hard to understand what they’re trying to do. Whites don’t have more rights than you on paper. They would love to change that, and they start by bending and then breaking the law.

Show threadtino_408Feb 26
Never had an issue voting lol
Show threadgalacticbackhoeFeb 27
This is what is referred to as anecdotal evidence. Go read up on voter suppression and gerrymandering.
Show threadAgent641Feb 25
If convicted felons can be president, they should be allowed to vote too.
Show threadFlames5123Feb 25
Depends on the immigrants, sadly.
Show threadA_norny_mousseFeb 25

Death by a thousand cuts. Each issue by itself might evoke a shrug, but put it all together, a very clear picture emerges.

BTW (and I’m sure you know) this has been going on for waaaay longer than MAGA. Arguably since the USA’s independence. Every conservative president seems to have added a little bit. The system is completely eroded.

Show threadlonefighterFeb 24
If your name doesn’t match what’s on your birth certificate, look into whether your state allows you to change your birth certificate and do it before it’s too late. My name is not my birth name or my married name, I had it legally changed. I got tired of hauling around my birth certificate, marriage certificate, divorce paperwork, and legal name change to show the paper trail that I both was who I was and was no longer legally married. Turns out in my state I just had to send in a notarized form, copies of my paperwork and pay small fee and I got my birth certificate updated to my current name. Now I can “prove” who I am by just showing my birth certificate and ignore the fact that I was married and changed my name. It also made updating my passport easier. Granted, I am not trans, but I did it last year and they had the option to change gender on the form.
Show threadGathorallFeb 25
How isn’t showing your passport sufficient evidence to tell you are who you tell you are?
Show threadlonefighterFeb 25
Not everyone has their passport. If you do, that should be sufficient. It also made updating my passport easier, way less paperwork to send in. I’d never gotten around to updating my passport to the correct name and it was much less paperwork to send in.
Show threadXennyFeb 24
So hear me out. Republicans are more likely to take someone’s last name than a liberal couple right? Doesn’t this disproportionately disenfranchise Republican women? Could this potentially actually harm the Republican vote?
Show threadOptionalFeb 24

Yeah. But the hit to potential Democratic voters will make it worth their while.

Essentially women would need to provide additional paperwork in order to vote. Republican women have that paperwork, or can get it easier.

Show threadKewlio250Feb 25

What makes you think Republican women would have an easier time getting that paperwork?

As far as I know, the demographics of passport holding Americans skews slightly left, and more left leaning couples would be expected to have kept their maiden names upon marriage.

Show threadOptionalFeb 25

What makes you think Republican women would have an easier time getting that paperwork?

money and privilege?

Show threadnocturneFeb 25
When my wife and I married she only took my last name because her father abandoned her when she was 6 months old, and she wanted to erase that from her identity.
Show threadexplodicleFeb 25
One of my male coworkers at a previous job did the same thing for the same reason, took his wife’s name.
Show threadfemtekFeb 25
A lot of states have been banning name changes for trans people, I think this was a dumb attack on trans people.
Show threadarrow74Feb 25
Marginally yes they are, but it’s still more common in my expirence that the woman changes their name still
Show threadkingofrasFeb 24
Show threadexplodicleFeb 25
Or else what
Show threadUnspecificGravityFeb 24

Do the Republicans really think they are going to benefit from a requirement that disenfranchises people who don’t have proof of citizenship like:

Women who got married and took their husbands last name People who keep getting divorced over and over again People who have never travelled outside the US

Bear in mind that the people who are basically guaranteed to have their documents in order are:

Recently naturalized citizens People who travel a lot Unmarried women People who graduated college

But hey, at least they are going to stop all the undocumented immigrants who already weren’t allowed to register to vote in the first place.

This is going to be like how they attacked absentee voting without realizing that the majority of absentees were retirees and the military.

Show threadKairosFeb 25

Do the Republicans really think

Not usually

Show threadspencerwiFeb 25
See, the thing Jim Crow and its “literacy tests” taught us is that you just need a rule that you can enforce on the wrong people, and then you just choose not to enforce it when it’s convenient.
Show threadUnspecificGravityFeb 25
But that’s the thing. YOU know that. But do they? ID verification, unlike literacy tests, is pretty objective. There isn’t much room to target that enforcement apart from the existing biases in who has id and who doesn’t.
Show threadPommes_für_dein_BalgFeb 25
The literacy tests were only given to “specific kinds” of people.
And the same will be true for ID verification.
If you look “trustworthy” they won’t ask for your ID.
Show threadin_my_honest_opinionFeb 25
Checkout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws I think that might help you see where the Trump admin is cribbing notes from.
Jim Crow laws - Wikipedia

Show threadAA5BFeb 25

As a white guy, I’m aware that there have been times where I’m just accepted at face value when other people would have required ID

It’s not the ID itself necessarily, but who is asked for it and who likely has it in order

Show threadRebekahWSDFeb 25
This being on the horizon stopped me from changing my name from my father’s to my mother’s last name. A shame. She has a much cooler name.
Show threadFenrirIIIFeb 25
Seems like this won’t affect a lot of women in the south.