Scoop: Dems working on secret report found Gaza cost Harris votes

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The report: everything we were screaming into the void from 2023 till 2024.

The report is moot other than the fact they trying to bury it because anyone with two twigs to run together knows the answer, knew it before it happened, knew it while it was happening, and knows it now.

Trump was easily beatable in 2024 and Dems blew it at every turn.

You want to see the roadmap for beating Trump?

Sort c/politics by controversial and read the top five threads of comments.

It’s all there in black and white, in no uncertain terms. And the shitlibs who insisted we take the worst strategy turns possible (and advocating for them in those threads)…they mostly jumped ship (santanko and squid being notable examples).

It’s also worth nothing how many voices who go their analysis at the time basically correct at the time it would have mattered, how many of them are banned from politics as a whole. There was a clear moderation effort made to cultivate a specific type of conversation here.

If genocide isn’t a red line then there are no red lines, every lib that voted for blue no matter who should be in the Hague along with the rest of the murderers
You really saved us all with your not voting.

Man… how many bricks to the side of y’all’s head do we have to take to get you to understand that a) an election isn’t about individual choice, and b) telling people what to do with their votes is counter productive.

If you were doing in 2023/24 what you are doing now, with that comment: Your why fascism won.

Fascism won because millions of people refused to vote against it, because the alternative wasn’t perfect.

Stop blaming the people who literally voted against fascism. Does believing in harm reduction make one a “shitlib” in your view?

Fascism won because the Democratic party didn’t want to adopt an anti-genocide stance.

You’re an apologist for fascism if you are blaming voters.

Biden and Harris were nowhere near as bad for Gaza as trump is, and papering over that detail hasn’t helped the situation

An entire fucking genocide happened under their “deeply concerned” watch bruh.

Stop apologizing for fascism.

Trump is the fascist. I’m not apologizing for fascism, I hate it with a burning passion. I’m simply stating that anyone who allowed him to get elected was enabling fascism.

Stop trying to obfuscate things by acting like Biden and Harris were as bad as trump.

Ahh yes. The “I’m not pro genocide, I’m just advocating for the candidates who are pro genocide”.

If you argued people needed to vote for Harris instead of advocating that Harris needed to change her stance, you are pro genocide.

So what did getting trump elected do for the genocide?

(Hint: if you say anything other than accelerate it with the explicit intention of seeing it through to completion, then you’re wrong)

You can’t hide the fact that the situation in gaza wouldn’t be as bad as it is now, if Kamala Harris won in 2024. So unless you think harm reduction is a myth, then you don’t really have a point.

You can’t hide the fact that the situation in gaza wouldn’t be as bad as it is now, if Kamala Harris won in 2024.

Its fucking irrelevant because she lost the fucking election supporting a genocide.

To someone supporting it even more strongly.

Also, there’s a difference between passive support and active support. One is not doing enough to stop it, the other is actively encouraging it.