This is not at all comparable to Trump/Epstein. Drew was only pitying pedophiles, not actual rapists (this may come as a surprise to you, but there is a very clear difference).

Nobody should pity pedophiles, you should want them removed from society permanently. If that’s controversial, so be it

With this line of thinking I’d rather remove you from society

You’d agree of course, that pedophiles should be removed from society? Is the idea of shaming pedophiles and pedo apologists some kind of line in the sand that shouldn’t be crossed in your eyes?

You’d agree of course, that pedophiles should be removed from society?

No, I would most definitely not. In the same way that I would not agree that we should remove all men from society just because they make up the majority of rapists.

Is the idea of shaming pedophiles and pedo apologists some kind of line in the sand that shouldn’t be crossed in your eyes?

Yes.

Right, all rapists should be removed from society, regardless of gender

That wasn’t the point here. You should work on your reading comprehension. Unless you genuinely believe that all men are rapists? In which case I would just give up trying to argue with someone that has the mental capacity of a toddler.

I genuinely believe that all rapists should be removed from society, regardless of gender. It wasn’t very complicated of a point, surely you’re smart enough to pick up on that, without resorting to ad hominem.

Jesus fucking Christ, are you just ragebaiting or are you genuinely this bad at comprehending stuff? I am talking about the equivalent of your original point, that being the PREEMPTIVE removal of ALL MEN from society due to the fact that they are the main perpetrators of rape, despite the overwhelming majority of them not being rapists at all.

Is this clear now, or should I send your Mum over to explain it to you?

I never made that point, so I didn’t address it. After you said “I’d rather remove you from society” it was pretty clear to me you were letting emotions get the best of you. Again, no need for ad hominem depictions.

Their point is that attraction doesn’t entail crime or even willingness to commit crimes. Punishing someone for a thought crime is unenforceable and absurd.

I wouldn’t consider resident rehabilitation punishment, more of an opportunity really, but it still serves the purpose of keeping those people away from the rest of society and reintegrating them once they’re fit to be around vulnerable individuals

You said:

Nobody should pity pedophiles, you should want them removed from society permanently. If that’s controversial, so be it

(Emphasis mine)

You backpedaled after being called out, and it’s particularly annoying because removing permanently can also mean extermination. But giving you grace and only interpreting it as rehabilitation (assuming the individual is deemed to no longer be a danger to others), it’s still impossible to enforce until there’s a crime.

Someone who undergoes resident rehabilitation as a pedophile and is successfully treated results in someone who is no longer a pedophile. That permanently removes the pedophile from society.

You can’t make someone “no longer a pedophile” any more than you can make someone “no longer gay/a lesbian/[insert any other sexual orientation]”.

A sexual preference towards men, women, or nonbinary isn’t a mental illness. A sexual preference to children is. Refer to this for further explanation.

Does a condition being considered a mental illness magically make it curable? Was homosexuality curable when it was still classified as a mental disorder? Not that I know of. But feel free to show me a reputable study claiming that is indeed possible to cure pedophilia or paraphilias in general.

Of course not, an individual with such a disorder can be successfully treated to reduce if not fully eliminate pedophilic urges or inclinations. Medications and treatments are available to reduce sexual libido and urges in afflicted individuals, as well as to rebuild the mental pathways from pedophilic to normophilic, without altering sexual orientation. A resource to consider is the Handbook of Clinical Sexuality for Mental Health Professionals by Stephen B Levine, Candace B Rice, Stanley E Althof. For a study, as you’ve requested, feel free to give Changes in Sexual Arousal as Measured by Penile Plethysmography in Men with Pedophilic Sexual Interest a cursory reading.

Of course your LLM response provides a study that is heavily flawed in it’s methodology and has been criticised a number. of. times..

I’m not convinced, neither are most experts in this field of research.

No LLMs used here, just regular old fashioned search engines and common sense. Not that I expect that to convince you :D I wouldn’t bother wasting an LLM’s time on this, it’s much more entertaining not to. If you feel so inclined, I’d be curious what your take on antiandrogen medications, serotonergic agents or gonadotropin-releasing hormone antagonists for treatment is, since it seems effective in the limited trials that have taken place. Of course, there should always be more thorough research into the capacity for full remission.