TomAwezomeGiven that Drew Devault has pity for pedophiles, the correct choice is to discount anything he says, much like you should discount anything Trump or Epstein claims without further primary sources of evidence from unaffiliated parties
SpectrismThis is not at all comparable to Trump/Epstein. Drew was only pitying pedophiles, not actual rapists (this may come as a surprise to you, but there is a very clear difference).
Nobody should pity pedophiles, you should want them removed from society permanently. If that’s controversial, so be it
You’d agree of course, that pedophiles should be removed from society? Is the idea of shaming pedophiles and pedo apologists some kind of line in the sand that shouldn’t be crossed in your eyes?
You’d agree of course, that pedophiles should be removed from society?
No, I would most definitely not. In the same way that I would not agree that we should remove all men from society just because they make up the majority of rapists.
Is the idea of shaming pedophiles and pedo apologists some kind of line in the sand that shouldn’t be crossed in your eyes?
Yes.
Right, all rapists should be removed from society, regardless of gender
That wasn’t the point here. You should work on your reading comprehension. Unless you genuinely believe that all men are rapists? In which case I would just give up trying to argue with someone that has the mental capacity of a toddler.
I genuinely believe that all rapists should be removed from society, regardless of gender. It wasn’t very complicated of a point, surely you’re smart enough to pick up on that, without resorting to ad hominem.
Jesus fucking Christ, are you just ragebaiting or are you genuinely this bad at comprehending stuff? I am talking about the equivalent of your original point, that being the PREEMPTIVE removal of ALL MEN from society due to the fact that they are the main perpetrators of rape, despite the overwhelming majority of them not being rapists at all.
Is this clear now, or should I send your Mum over to explain it to you?
I never made that point, so I didn’t address it. After you said “I’d rather remove you from society” it was pretty clear to me you were letting emotions get the best of you. Again, no need for ad hominem depictions.
Yes, you did make that point, by claiming that “we should remove all pedophiles from society”. I gave you equivalent example to show you how stupid that is. And you didn’t just “not address it”, you completely spun it around to fit your narrative. That whole point was your emotional knee-jerk reaction, I just threw it back at you.
It’s pretty simple, thorough and extensive rehabilitation to treat and rid individuals of the severe mental illness, such that they’re fit for reintroduction into society. That’s how rehab works.
treat and rid individuals of the severe mental illness
It’s not a mental illness. If anything, it’s a mental disorder or just a sexual orientation. And when exactly have we ever been able to get rid of a sexual preference? Is conversion therapy your goal? That shit doesn’t work.
You seem to be making a lot of wrong assumptions here. Because just like men in the rapists example, pedophiles overwhelmingly are fit for society and don’t need treatment or rehabilitation in the first place. And for the ones that do feel like they need help, it would actually be better to not shame and stigmatize them to actually give them the chance of trusting someone to talk about it.
It’s not a mental illness. If anything, it’s a mental disorder
Those are the same thing. “A mental disorder, also referred to as a mental illness, a mental health condition, or a psychiatric disability”
Most mental illnesses can be successfully treated, many live to tell the tale. Drug addicts who become treated are no longer addicts, sufferers of emotional cognitive disorders who become successfully treated are no longer emotionally suffering. Some disorders are treatment resistant, and afflicted individuals undergo life-long consistent maintenance therapy.
A sexual preference towards men, women, or nonbinary isn’t a mental illness. A sexual preference to children is.
I thought I’ve read somewhere that “mental disorder” is a broader term for basically any deviations from the norm, whereas “mental illness” was mostly referring to conditions that impact general behaviour and functioning, with most of them being considered treatable. I could be wrong, or there are varying definitions. In any case, it’s not a “severe mental illness” that can be cured.
A sexual preference towards men, women, or nonbinary isn’t a mental illness. A sexual preference to children is.
Even if go with this assumption, it doesn’t mean it has to be treated (which is not really possible anyway), let alone forcefully.