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gusseting@oaf @kattekrab @everythingopen do you still have those tshirts? I didn't get one, and really should have!
kattekrab@gusseting @oaf @everythingopen I think there might be some left somewhere but only size M - we may call consider popping it up on Redbubble if there’s interest
@kattekrab @oaf @everythingopen redbubble? Oh god no....whereabouts are you/do you want to ship from?
There's way *way* better options, I'm sure. Redbubble is some nasty stuff.
There's way *way* better options, I'm sure. Redbubble is some nasty stuff.
Ben Fairless@gusseting @kattekrab @oaf @everythingopen open to discussing alternatives - I believe we partnered with a local supplier to print the first batch.
@benrfairless @kattekrab @oaf @everythingopen
Talk to a band - front end loader would probably be good, or paul curtis, manager for regurgitator. There's a place in brisbane that does deals for bands.
Wondering - if you know someone from The Greens - they do shirts galore, and doubt that'd be redbubble.
Option: crowdfund a batch of merch, so you get money up front and an idea of which sizes/things will be most popular, and you can add a chunk onto that initial order to sell. I'll shut up now:)
Talk to a band - front end loader would probably be good, or paul curtis, manager for regurgitator. There's a place in brisbane that does deals for bands.
Wondering - if you know someone from The Greens - they do shirts galore, and doubt that'd be redbubble.
Option: crowdfund a batch of merch, so you get money up front and an idea of which sizes/things will be most popular, and you can add a chunk onto that initial order to sell. I'll shut up now:)
@kattekrab @benrfairless @oaf @everythingopen
well, whilst you're doing merch, I'd love to see posters of *something* political. What, exactly, I'm not sure.
I'm extremely pissed at Juice Media for doing the video on compulsory income management, *then* supporting the very people who voted for it.
I'm so glad that your website can't be refuted. Zoe tried, and failed so hard.
"I didn't vote for it!"
Oh? Well, what's this then Zoe?
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well, whilst you're doing merch, I'd love to see posters of *something* political. What, exactly, I'm not sure.
I'm extremely pissed at Juice Media for doing the video on compulsory income management, *then* supporting the very people who voted for it.
I'm so glad that your website can't be refuted. Zoe tried, and failed so hard.
"I didn't vote for it!"
Oh? Well, what's this then Zoe?
🦗🦗🦗
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@gusseting @kattekrab @benrfairless @everythingopen we believe that our place is empowering everyone from across the political spectrum to engage in democracy by providing the tools and data.
They Vote for You was created to highlight how politicians actually vote. That data can be used to empower others to compare how they vote with what they say 😊.
@oaf @kattekrab @benrfairless @everythingopen
There's a slight problem with what you're providing in that it's not telling the full story. A great example = Kate Chaney of climate 200 fame.
What climate 200 + Kate Chaney *say* they do: "She’s been leading the charge on a bill to make elections more transparent and fair, intergenerational fairness, online gambling reform and decarbonising WA’s economy."
Yeah, right.
1/2 Let's look at the family history, and what she actually *does*.
There's a slight problem with what you're providing in that it's not telling the full story. A great example = Kate Chaney of climate 200 fame.
What climate 200 + Kate Chaney *say* they do: "She’s been leading the charge on a bill to make elections more transparent and fair, intergenerational fairness, online gambling reform and decarbonising WA’s economy."
Yeah, right.
1/2 Let's look at the family history, and what she actually *does*.
@oaf @kattekrab @benrfairless @everythingopen
I'm curious as to how advocating for Woodside is decarbonising *anyone's* economy, considering they've doubled production since 2020, and their previous CEO is now head of an overseas operation. Name a 100% renewables company that any politican has named and supported, including Kate. I'm at a loss.
"KATE CHANEY: Gas has been a really important part of the WA economy and the Australian economy, and it continues to have a role in transition."
I'm curious as to how advocating for Woodside is decarbonising *anyone's* economy, considering they've doubled production since 2020, and their previous CEO is now head of an overseas operation. Name a 100% renewables company that any politican has named and supported, including Kate. I'm at a loss.
"KATE CHANEY: Gas has been a really important part of the WA economy and the Australian economy, and it continues to have a role in transition."
@oaf @kattekrab @benrfairless @everythingopen
Yet, explain this one:
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/curtin/kate_chaney/policies/273
ok, you have: " Be careful! Without a magic crystal ball, there's no way to predict with absolute certainty what representatives will do in future, no matter what they promise you now or how they voted in the past. Nonetheless, exploring how they voted before can help you decide who to support in an election."
Daughter of Woodside director + CIS #atlasnetwork Chaney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chaney
Yet, explain this one:
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/curtin/kate_chaney/policies/273
ok, you have: " Be careful! Without a magic crystal ball, there's no way to predict with absolute certainty what representatives will do in future, no matter what they promise you now or how they voted in the past. Nonetheless, exploring how they voted before can help you decide who to support in an election."
Daughter of Woodside director + CIS #atlasnetwork Chaney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chaney
@oaf @kattekrab @benrfairless @everythingopen
oh yeah! is there a reason why you get the "can't say anything concrete" when the other bit says "voted consistently"?
oh yeah! is there a reason why you get the "can't say anything concrete" when the other bit says "voted consistently"?
@gusseting @oaf @kattekrab that usually happens when a politician hasn’t voted in the divisions that are linked to a policy.
Info on how policies work: https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/help/faq#policies
@benrfairless @oaf @kattekrab Is that a valid question that journalists aren't asking re: if this thing is so freaking important to you, why aren't you voting on it?
@gusseting @oaf @kattekrab personally I think the bigger issue is that a major majority of things that go through the parliament don’t have a voting record.
One of the most significant cases in recent memory would have to be marriage equality. There is no official record of that final vote as they didn’t need to count those in favour/those against.
@benrfairless @oaf @kattekrab
What can be done about this lack of official record of final vote about things that the public care about?
How do you make things a policy that is voted for/against - eg gaza ceasefire?
What can be done about this lack of official record of final vote about things that the public care about?
How do you make things a policy that is voted for/against - eg gaza ceasefire?
@gusseting @oaf @kattekrab They Vote for You focuses on the voting record so you can compare what a politician says with what what they posted.
Creating a policy is possible via the site, but appears to be restricted to OAF staff. I’ll get our resident TVFY champion to see if we can create a Gaza ceasefire policy.
@benrfairless @gusseting @kattekrab Here's a #Gaza #ceasefire policy on #TheyVoteForYou
Wow. That is not a good look for Australia's water & environment Minister, considering what conflict does to climate:
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/queensland/murray_watt/policies/318
Thanks for your work @oaf
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/queensland/murray_watt/policies/318
Thanks for your work @oaf
@oaf oh! is there a way to get the image up, like there is with other policies?
eg, the infamous 298:
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/grayndler/anthony_albanese/policies/298
eg, the infamous 298:
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/grayndler/anthony_albanese/policies/298
@gusseting looks it’s possibly related to this bug: https://github.com/openaustralia/theyvoteforyou/issues/1574
@oaf @benrfairless re: the bug, is the kate result not the same as the dan repacholi bug you've logged? asking because same result (isn't it?)
https://mastodon.social/@gusseting/116021851905920256
https://mastodon.social/@gusseting/116021851905920256
@gusseting @benrfairless The bug is rather specific, where the image doesn't match what is displayed on the website. We are currently rebuilding the entire database but it's going to take hours :(
@gusseting @oaf looks like it’s working now ;)
@benrfairless @oaf
it's working, but there's still something weird in the display (life goes on, I guess!)
Let's try a greens with the same policy:
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/tasmania/nick_mckim/policies/273
it's working, but there's still something weird in the display (life goes on, I guess!)
Let's try a greens with the same policy:
https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/senate/tasmania/nick_mckim/policies/273
@benrfairless @oaf
if you scroll back, the display on the albanese vote would be sweet so the large type is understandable and not cut off.
if you scroll back, the display on the albanese vote would be sweet so the large type is understandable and not cut off.
@gusseting @oaf yep, I see the problem - I’m rebuilding the database again as it appears to have failed last night - ETA 3 hours 😭 (it’s been going for 3 hours at this point)
@gusseting @oaf more info if you’re interested: https://github.com/openaustralia/theyvoteforyou/issues/1575
I’ve manually applied the fix, the regular nightly update should complete with no errors (hopefully).
@benrfairless @oaf There’s this thing, Ben. It’s called sleep. :)