inclementimmigrantGunman shot dead in Mar-a-Lago was ‘fixated on Epstein files’ and big Trump supporter
“Why aren’t Americans doing anything?” then y’all shit on the Florida Man creeping into the presidential palace with a shotgun and gas can
He was just exercising his Second Amendment rights! And apparently the right to bear fuel as well. Maybe he just wanted to talk with his hero about the pizzagate evidence he’s sure must be in those files someplace. I’m pretty sure we only have the officers’ word he brandished the gun.
Euro-Lemmings believe both that Americans are recklessly married to vigilante political violence and also that they don’t do anything ever, it just depends on whatever belief, at any given point in time, allows them to whine about the US.
Strawmericans, if you will.
lumpenproletariatOh no. Not whining about the openly fascist government of America, those damn euros how dare they complain!
Yeah I whine about it a lot too, the point is that there is literally no action am American can take that’s correct. Do something? Rash, juvenile, doomed to fail, too violent, they should have large protests and walkouts instead. Protest in the street? Too civil, pointless, also doomed to fail, why aren’t Americans taking up arms by the millions to kill the government. Every action is the wrong one.
Maybe, just maybe that’s different people with different opinions and you’re lumping them all under one umbrella?
Hmmm, almost like that should be the approach with large, continental polities with a plethora of regional political subcultures in it.
RainbowHedgehogI mean, it is. But when I’m getting threats, or when people say terrible things about Minnesota to punish me for not protesting the way they want… things are a bit different.
I simply don’t have the energy to deal with Euros trying to start fights with organizers and demoralize people in our ranks because we don’t do things exactly how that group wants us to act. Especially when we face this no matter how we attempt to solve the problem.
What you both are noticing is a tactic of propaganda called FUD. It stands for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
The goal of this propaganda is to promote a feeling of hopelessness, on a large scale this will decrease political participation (“why vote, it doesn’t matter anyway, laws don’t matter they’ll just ignore them, the idea in the OP is dumb and anyone who thinks this will work is too”).
It doesn’t take too much creativity (and now, with LLMs, absolutely none) to make posts that say some variation of ‘that won’t work and you are dumb’ on every topic. This is why you have this perception of a mass amount of criticism, it’s being fabricated at scale across all of social media (Fediverse spaces had a brief period of obscurity but are now part of the propaganda campaigns).
That isn’t to say that there are not legit criticisms, but they are being signal boosted significantly as part of these FUD campaigns.
It’s your stupid monkey brain thinking that you are talking to ‘that one guy called internet’ instead of thousands of tens of thousands of different people.
pelespirit“Why aren’t Americans doing anything?”
Those are trolls trying to cause chaos. It’s obviously suicide if anyone does what the trolls are telling them to do.
- Alex Pretti, did nothing wrong and was executed after they took his gun
- This guy
It’s sort of why I’m vocal when I see those comments pop up. Remind them that it’s a stupid position to have to start with, anyone actually planning to do something knows what OPSEC is, and they know any action has to be extraordinarily precise, not just shooting at feds.
But it is a valid counter-argument to the validity of the second amendment. Even if you got a thousand or two of your well-armed friends together to topple the tyranny, you would likely only win the battle and not the war.
I don’t think we were talking about that?
No, it’s tangential to this, but still related.
It’s sort of why I’m vocal when I see those comments pop up. Remind them that it’s a stupid position to have to start with
More people need to do this, anybody calling for violence on social media is either a provocateur/non-US National or a dangerously naive American who will cause more harm than good.
There are many roads to a good outcome through peaceful means, once someone starts to resort to violence the options rapidly become limited. Anyone who thinks that we should move into that second world is actively dangerous to everyone that lives in the US.
Minnesota is the perfect example of this.
For anyone that doesn’t believe, I use articles from Waging Nonviolence. I also follow an expert on nonviolent resistance, Erica Chenoweth, on BlueSky.
What gets me is that Americans are constantly going stuff. I remember during March of last year people kept going on about how the French burned Tesla cars but Americans were “doing nothing.”
They kept saying this while there was constant vandalism all across the country. Reddit wouldn’t allow posts on the topic, so many didn’t know it was happening.
Even with the vandalism, that isn’t what took down DOGE. The biggest hit was simply the boycott and divestment from Tesla stocks.
I’ve got more respect for this dipshit than I do for any American sitting at home picking their battles in 2026.