Rodrigo 🐍🚀How do you read `*args` out loud in the context of a #Python function signature?
PLEASE reply with how you'd read it, I'm trying to prove someone wrong 🤣
Boosts are appreciated :D
For example, I read it as “star args”.
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diego murillo@mathsppblog star args, no doubt
Baptiste Mispelon@mathsppblog if I read it in my head, I think I just say "args". But if I read it to someone else, I'll say "star args".
(Same with **kwargs/kwargs/star star kwargs by the way)
David Zaslavsky@bmispelon @mathsppblog Kind of the same for me - in my head it's just "args", but if I'm talking to someone where there is any chance it might be misunderstood, I'll usually say "positional arguments" or something explicit.
@diazona @bmispelon but what if you're dictating something like `f(*args)` to someone? What would you say?
@mathsppblog depending if it's clear in the context, either:
- eff star args
- eff open parenthesis star args close parenthesis
Or maybe even:
- eff of star args (after the mathematical way of reading "eff of x" for f(x) )
@mathsppblog @bmispelon I can't remember ever actually being in a position to dictate that to someone, but I imagine saying "a function f that takes any number of positional arguments" if I want to be fully clear, or perhaps "f args" or "f of args" or "f of star args" if there's enough existing context that it would be understood what I mean (although that's probably not "dictation").
@diazona @bmispelon fair enough... thanks :)
Kim van Wyk@mathsppblog "star args", with the latter pronounced with the same sound as the start of "arguments"
@kimvanwyk yup, makes sense to me!
EReaso@mathsppblog “args”
@eddiereasoner but what if you're dictating something like `f(*args)` to someone? What would you say?
@mathsppblog function “f” with… wildcard arguments? Not sure if the terminology is correct. I’m sure the Python docs (would not recommend) could help.
Kroppeb@mathsppblog I just read it as "args"
@Kroppeb but what if you're dictating something like `f(*args)` to someone? What would you say?
@mathsppblog
mmh call site I might read it as "star args" yeah. Or maybe "args, I mean like star args you know right"
mmh call site I might read it as "star args" yeah. Or maybe "args, I mean like star args you know right"
@Kroppeb yeah, that's what I expected
|7eter l-|. l3oling 🧰@mathsppblog I am a Rubyist, so I would say “splat args”.
Zane Selvans@mathsppblog "star args"
Patrick Loftus 🖖
@mathsppblog honestly a bit like a pirate. Arrrgs. Not super long but more than args .
I didn’t even notice or consider the star until reading the comments of others.
@pwloftus that's hilarious! The pirate stuff, I mean 😂
What if you're dictating something like `f(*args)` to someone? What would you say?
@mathsppblog I think that would change slightly and maybe be context dependent.
Someone familiar with python probably ‘farrgs’ just slightly extended.
Dictation desiring all characters captured and unsure if fargs would be understood.
Ef paren star eh are gee es close paren.
I might slip up and say the word function instead of f.
If we’re talking kwargs… at this point I feel I should just be silly and go:
GWARS! and flash these: 🤘
@pwloftus the 🤘 is important!
Martin Owens 
Stargs, Quargs and Arguv. Same for C and kowt and ker rbh
@doctormo You lost me at “kowt”. What's that? And ker and rbh?
Alun Jones@mathsppblog star args
Jeff Triplett@mathsppblog I have heard people say, "star args" enough times to probably say that to Python devs.
In the real world, I would say, "the asterisk symbol args" because we are not monsters.
def foo(⭐args, ⭐⭐kwargs):
pass
@bmispelon @mathsppblog *️⃣args and *️⃣*️⃣kwargs but it's pronounced "emoji asterisk args" and "emoji asterisk asterisk kwargs"
I think we invented a new programming language.
I think 🙈 could be private variables. 🤔
@webology @bmispelon I'm on board with making 🙈 private variables.
Then, how about 🌍 for global variables?
@mathsppblog @bmispelon ✊ I think we are on to something. For Django, I want 🐘 for calling PostgreSQL code directly. 🐬 would work for MySQL if I ever used it (I don't), but we can make this work.
@webology @bmispelon you can create the repo; please add me as a collaborator: rodrigogiraoserrao is my GH username. 🚀
@mathsppblog @bmispelon I think we need to kickstart a new programming keyboard ⌨️ where every emoji of our language has a dedicated key.
That way, with every major language upgrade, we make money from selling them a bigger keyboard. 💸
ax6761@mathsppblog "*args" is "splat args" for me.
By extension "** args" is "splat splat args". Obviously.
@ax6761 interesting! Where do you get the “splat” from?
@mathsppblog I certainly met "splat" outside of Python; could have been ...
Perl 5’s list-flattening and reference-taking design choices, 20171129,
by Aristotle,
https://blogs.perl.org/users/aristotle/2017/11/perl5-refs-flattening.html
... where I might have picked it up.