psa fuck you if you think people cannot improve
this post was brought to you by "someone that has used an LLM at any point in their life cannot redeem themselves" type rhetoric on my feed

I want you to spread this message far and wide:
that is bullshit. we are not immune ourselves.
i'm pretty open about the fact that sometimes i use em out of curiosity or for fun, i'm just sick of seeing people taking it at its word. if people are gonna yell at others for using it at least do it for the right reasons lmao

@alexia i still worry about using tools with ML capabilities for things like separating stems in songs that otherwise don't have any available so i can (by hand afterward) make a silly mashup since people tend to conflate the two.

i'll also admit i tried a few LLMs for fiction writing but i wasn't able to springboard off the output so i trashed it.

I used LLM at some point in my life. Not that long ago (like a year or so). At that point I already knew they were shitty but used them to do dumb task so I convinced myself it was okay. Then I realized it was a very bad argument and stopped both using them and doing dumb task. I'm happier now.


#Honestly-I-never-really-liked-what-it-could-do #It's-a-very-frustrating-''tool''
@alexia people will be hardcore against AI and then use search engines that have been using massive ML models for decades ​
@mitsunee

No, not quite.
They're not against machine learning, they're not even against the concept of an LLM.

They're against what OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI, Microsoft, Nvidia and co are brewing. They are against what all of these companies and more are turning machine-learning into, what they're making out of it, and how it harms all of us.

When they talk "AI", they -- and everyone else around them -- should know that it's not about machine-learning as a field, it's about it's current widespread application in replacing jobs, displacement of power and further marginalization of people that are already marginalized.

@mitsunee @alexia Kinda seems like you don't understand *why* people are against "AI" if you think that you're making a point there.

Machine learning itself is fine. Trying to pretend that chat bots, which are inherently and irredeemably unreliable, should be used to generate or access knowledge, or to write code or design systems, or to (frankly) do anything *where the quality or reliability of the end product matters* (which is *almost* everything!) is fucking stupid and 1/

@mitsunee @alexia *will* get people killed. It's grossly negligent to rely on these things for work or learning.

It's also dubious to use generative AI for generating "art." The output is smoothed-over, averaged-out shit that erases almost all of a person's individuality (which necessarily includes technical *inability*) from the piece. It's the opposite of intentional, personal communication. It's lazy, low-effort, low-information noise. And it's the product of the ruling class once again 2/

@mitsunee @alexia *stealing* from the rest of us.

On top of this, this "AI" is being used to further codify systemic biases and oppression, to expand fascist surveillance programs (witness Palantir's work), and to deflect responsibility when things predictably go wrong.

All the while consuming massive amounts of material and energy that we *cannot* afford to waste on this kind of bullshit.

Machine learning is *everywhere,* from simple neural networks in video games dating back to the 3/

@mitsunee @alexia 1990's, to OCR systems in post offices, to (as you mention) modern search engines. Trying to say "oh-ho, you don't like ChatGPT/Palantir/Grok/whatever, but you use search engines" as if it's some sort of "gotcha" is completely absurd. 4/4
@lykso @alexia hi, I made a joke, I did not ask for a 5000 response thread from some random. Fuck off
@mitsunee @lykso @alexia your joke there is nonsense, the response thread is perfectly reasonable, although probably makes the assumption you’re pro-slop whereas you’re not, “fuck off” is not the best thing to say here

@zaire @mitsunee @alexia Yes, I was assuming "pro-slop," as the post did not come off at all as a joke to me. Randos spout nonsense in earnest all the time. Whether/how much I push back depends on my energy levels, and I was feeling uncomfortably energetic yesterday.

It looks like I've been blocked and can no longer see the thread, but I'll leave this here as an apology. I didn't realize you were trying to make a joke, so I went off as if you weren't. Sorry for that!

@mitsunee @lykso for the record, I also did not want a barely-passing-as-joke in my replies about a topic that seriously pisses me off either
@alexia yeah we used genAI years ago when we were more ignorant and the issues with it weren't widely propagated. so did a lot of other folks. we stopped using as soon as we knew better. actually kinda even before cause the novelty wore off quickly
@alexia we should try to be compassionate and understanding towards people while still standing our ground. genai technology is unethical, but not everyone knows this, and even if they do, they may not realize the extent of how harmful it is. they also might be forced to use it one way or another. we need to take all these factors into account
@alexia this is correct

@alexia What about one of those scenarios where one stands up a local LLM model to learn how it works? Am I an irredeemable POS for being curious about new tech?

First of, that black-and-white thinking is immediately a red flag to me. It suggests they've been conditioned by social media to only accept extremes.

Second, the important thing is that I stopped using it after I took away what I wanted to learn. Know thy enemy, right?

@foxyloon
Am I an irredeemable POS for being curious about new tech?No, and that's literally what this entire post is about.
@alexia Everyone can improve, if they try.

wrong, some people legit can't improve because they are rotten from the inside

source: i knew at least 1 person in my irl life that was irredeemable

@alexia
Be better than yesterday. If you fail, forgive yourself and try again tomorrow.

In my experience, the only people incapable of growth are the ones incapable of forgiving themselves for being wrong.

@alexia I used to think people could not improve. Then I improved.