RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/tree/main/.claude

clients/.claude at main · bitwarden/clients

Bitwarden client apps (web, browser extension, desktop, and cli). - bitwarden/clients

GitHub
@mcc oh yikes wtf please not bitwarden
@luana @mcc nothing says "super safe password manager" more than "161 files changed, 776 lines added, 541 line removed, some files are hidden from PR by default, authored by Claude Sonnet, merged with some tests failing"
@nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc The file being “hidden” is an issue with Github’s UI, the source code is not actually “hidden” from people who want to read it. Also, who cares if master breaks? Do you pull Bitwarden from master and compile it or do you download pre-built releases? A lot of anti-AI sentiment today seems to have zero thought put behind it.

@gsprs I'm well aware that the "hidden" code can be read if one cares about it. But the UX is bad, and large changes go unnoticed for someone who only skims over the PR. Which is more or less the only option for a PR that changes 161 file. These PRs are generally very difficult to review for humans.

> Also, who cares if master breaks?

Every reliability engineer worth their salt.

@nina_kali_nina > These PRs are generally very difficult to review for humans.

Is it difficult for humans using AI? I’ve heard it’s easier that way 😁

The anti-AI crowd is more than welcome to put in the work and fork the projects they criticize for using LLMs and maintain their own repo with 100% organic homegrown code, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that though, being outraged over other people’s generous contributions is far more attractive.

@nina_kali_nina @gsprs Honestly I'd be inclined to just reject the PR if it's not very pertinent. Even then I might procrastinate on having the energy to actually review that.

I refuse to just merge in code I didn't actually review.
@gsprs @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc it’s funny because pro-AI sentiment has even less thought behind it
@benjamineskola @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc A "no you" reply like this really hammers home the idea that anti-AI sentiment has no real substance behind it and is just a way to virtue signal the in-group political belief. AIs are currently not sentient and yet an LLM could come up with a more elaborate and constructive reply, what does that say about your supposed sentience?
@gsprs Whe your starting point is “lol anti-AI people are stupid” there’s no point in putting real thought into a response. In fact there’s nothing of substance to respond to.

@gsprs virtues are good, virtues are supposed to be signaled, 'tis good to be virtuous and ethical.

(can you tell me what makes the promptfondlers to be so annoyingly proselytyzing though? did anyone ask for your opinion?)

@mawhrin I couldn’t ask for an example of holier than thou attitude and proselytizing better than the first half of this post, the other half honestly looks like parody after reading it.
@gsprs the only people who complain about virtue signalling are the gobshites: the racists, the white supremacists, the misogynists, you know the type.

@mawhrin And Merriam-Webster too, don’t forget to add them to your list!

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/virtue%20signaling

> the act or practice of conspicuously displaying one's awareness of and attentiveness to political issues, matters of social and racial justice, etc., especially instead of taking effective action

Definition of VIRTUE SIGNALING

Definition of 'virtue signaling' by Merriam-Webster

@gsprs it's a dictionary; it does not make judgements, merely records usage.

you, on the other hand, make judgements after showing unasked in a thread where you felt compelled to involve yourself in a confabulation machinery advocacy.

and now, have an adequate evening.

@mawhrin And the usage it records is negative, look up what “conspicuously” means.
@gsprs i see. now: can you tell me in your own words what's wrong with being virtuous and ethical?
@gsprs @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc > Also, who cares if master breaks?

What kind of two-bit hack breaks master on a published project?
@lispi314 @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana Would you like a refund on that free lunch you ordered? You're more than welcome to send a PR or pony up some cash for a bug bounty, the last thing open source maintainers need are more freeloading peanut gallery morons like you.
@gsprs @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana Wow, I guess that callout hit close to home huh?

If you feel guilty about your own flaws, don't try and project them on others who actually do avoid them.

@lispi314 @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana One last time: talk is cheap and there's no shortage of armchair maintainers like you in open source, your input is not needed.

Also, there is something very ironic in attempting to accuse someone of "feeling guilty about their own flaws" while hiding behind a "cutesy anime girl" persona online, surely if you had any introspection you'd be able to see that :^)

@gsprs @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana I see you keep insisting on the corposcum-approved "Open Source" label for some reason.

I don't care about Open Source. My profile is quite clear about that.

Is there hiding in the choice of an avatar that is more relatable and pleasant than the meat I am stuck with? Which do you think I consider more of a mask to facilitate social interaction and which I consider more honest broadcasting of my interests and personality?

I have no guilt in the flaws of the flesh which I have no responsibility for. Distaste, certainly, but no guilt. Unfortunately it's not even a matter of money, I simply cannot get it fixed.

I could clapback for the macbook face but honestly I don't really see why an avatar & broadcasted choice of aesthetics is supposed to be a negative (even if one has bad taste, it's at least clear).
@lispi314 @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana What would you have me call Bitwarden instead of open source? "Free software"? If you did you'd be completely wrong, Bitwarden does not fit that definition since it has proprietary modules, proprietary enterprise features, proprietary infrastructure for the official server and so on. Rule #1 of LARPing as a tech vegan warrior is to look up what these terms mean so you don't embarrass yourself attempting to correct others like you just did.
What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

Since 1983, developing the free Unix style operating system GNU, so that computer users can have the freedom to share and improve the software they use.

@gsprs @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana I would call it "unsuitable for use".

Which of course doesn't mean I cannot take notice when it somehow takes the plunge into becoming even worse.
@lispi314 @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana Oh yeah, surely that's what you were going for when you complained about the use of the "corposcum" term "open source", right? Surely you didn't just try to gotcha me with the classic "uhm akshually you pleb it's called Free Software (free as in freedom not cost btw) and not Open Source" and failed hard. You can't even fool yourself.
@gsprs @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana No, I didn't.

I'm here for keepassxc and taking potshots at other opportunities because I can.

I don't have anything to prove to you, but feel free to browse my posts.
@lispi314 @mcc @nina_kali_nina @luana Denial, classic. Thank you for the laughs, if there's anything I did wrong it was to claim you were at the peanut gallery, after reading this I realized you're more like the main stage clown. Have a good one!