Ben Lockwood (broadly defined)Feb 10
I’ve said it before, but it needs repeating: We already have all the knowledge and technology we need to make an ecological society. It is our political and economic structures that prevent it. The quest for unlimited growth and accumulation exploits both people and our environment.
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@benlockwood
How can we create the political and economic structures that support our ecological society?
Show threadmike805Feb 21

@nuwagaba2 @benlockwood You will need something other than humans in charge of it. Humans are biologically wired to compete for reproductive advantage. Unlike food and wealth, that never runs out, especially for men. That is why you have billionaires still out there status-seeking.

Fully Automated Luxury Communism will have to be fully automated. No human management.

And you will need to split some atoms to power it.

Show threadNuwagaba GiftFeb 21
@mike805
Thanks for sharing such a valuable insight. Where do we start from?
Show threadmike805

@nuwagaba2 AI? (ducks under table)

Seriously though, someone ought to be doing discrete event simulations to test out the various alternative monetary schemes. Let's see which of them actually work and could replace debt based economics. We badly need new thinking about the nature of money.

Feb 21 at 5:19amWeb
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@mike805
That's a good step to take . For all this to become a reality, we need to join efforts and make what we dream of a reality. Can I share with you about my project?
Show threadmike805Feb 21

@nuwagaba2 Yes, what are you up to? I read For Us The Living and took an interest in alternative economics and non-usury finance. What I really want is a discrete event simulation of the current economy, with a few million agents, that can reproduce real world economic behavior. I think it could be done on a high end PC. From there you test the alternatives and see which ones work.

I think the current system is broken because a loan does not create the money to pay the interest.

Show threadNuwagaba GiftFeb 21
@mike805
It's about fighting hunger in my community, I work with 12 young volunteer farmers to make this a reality by growing food for the needy, educating local farmers with advanced agricultural skills to help them improve on their production as well as equipping beginner farmers with required tools like seeds , fertilisers and organic pestcides to help them produce the best out of their gardens as well as combating climate change through tree planting. Do you have such initiatives there?
Show threadNuwagaba GiftFeb 21
@mike805
We need to make ourselves independent of tge system. The main reason why we need money is to have access to basic needs especially food. If we can produce our own food, make our own electricity, produce our own clothes and also pit own medicine, money will has no control over us which helps us to escape the system that was designed to enslave us. Our initiative is currently under a crisis where we have been forced to evacuate the land that we have been renting to do our activities
Show threadNuwagaba GiftFeb 21

@mike805
We have been renting the land to grow food for the needy, train farmers agroecological farming practices to improve food production as well as conserving our environment through tree planting in public places. We established a gofund.me page to help us raise funds to buy our own land and make our dream a reality. This is the link from where you can support us.

https://gofund.me/3f38fe9d0

Any ideas to help us progress with our work?

Donate to Buy land and provide food to the needy, organized by Jozsef Vass

Hi, my name is Jozsef and after a successful fundraising for a Kenyan children inst… Jozsef Vass needs your support for Buy land and provide food to the needy

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