the pushback to folks choosing to pursue firearms training or obtain them always throws me for a loop
ultimately this should be the choice of the individual
maybe there are posts i don't see that proclaim everyone must arm themselves by 13:12pm this Tuesday but i'm not seeing such posts
is there a long line where somebody is passing out AKs that i missed?
@johnbrowntypeface You really don't understand the issue folks have?
If firearms were only usable for suicide and didn't work to kill or maim anyone but the owner, then yeah totally "it should be the choice of the individual" would be sound. But the reason people buy guns is almost always to kill someone else (usually someone else TBD, but occasionally an already determined someone else).
You can't see why people other than the one buying the guns have concerns?
@johnbrowntypeface
You likely won't agree with me here, but to me "my personal choice to keep guns" is on a spectrum somewhere between "my personal choice to drive a truck with a super high hood so I can't see if a child is crossing the street in front of me" and "my personal choice to store enough explosives in my apartment to level the whole building"
To be clear, I'm not asking you to *agree* with me, but do you *understand* me? Are you at least no longer confused about *why* we disagree?
@dragonfrog
i'm not sure i was ever confused about why we disagree
i invite you to look more into community defense
"This wide-ranging anthology uncovers the hidden histories & ideas of community armed self-defense, exploring how it has been used by marginalized & oppressed communities as well as anarchists & radicals within significant social movements of the twentieth & twenty-first centuries." Setting Sights: Histories & Reflections on Community Armed Self Defense (scott crow, editor) https://www.scottcrow.org/book-setting-sights-histories-and-reflections-on-community-armed-self-defense/ https://archive.org/details/setting-sights-scott-crow #CommunityDefense #SelfDefense #CommunityArmedSelfDefense #Antifascism
@johnbrowntypeface Your initial post read to me like you were expressing confusion.
In any case, I do think we understand one another better now.
@dragonfrog
the confusion is explained in those initial three posts
it's aimed towards a repeated position where folks claim any talk whatsoever of buying or training with firearms implies insurrection or something illegal, with a further connotation that it's reaching some viral pitch and countless folks are actually buying guns or contributing to negative outcomes with firearms
whereas people who advocate for community defense most commonly are strong supporters of gun safety
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dragonfrog