MartinFeb 17
Per Axbom
Techbro stance: "Regulating AI is hindering innovation."

The purpose of regulation is to protect humans from harm, support wellbeing and promote societal sustainability.

So the techbro stance is "I can't invent new stuff if I can't fuck with people's lives and health."

Except that's not innovation, that's abuse.

Politicians and media really need to start understanding the difference.
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Show threadDJM (freelance for hire)Feb 3
@axbom The famous "Regulations hinder progress" that so many libertarians have been pushing as much as they can for years (e.g. cryptos, but the same people are behind both AI & cryptos).
The ultimate goal being reflected in the "Network State".
Show threadFediThing Feb 4

@cybeardjm @axbom

Even the tiniest incremental good regulation like standardising phone charger plug shapes were met with shouts of "this is hindering innovation".

Show threadDavid CulleyFeb 4

@cybeardjm @axbom All the people who want to be free from "the State" and regulation are very happy to make big contracts with the state to loot taxpayer's money.

The biggest opportunity is war preparations and expenses.

That's why we have Palantir and Palmer Luckey's company (Anduril it is called, I believe).

Show threadSlyenceFeb 3

@axbom Politicians seem to understand it just fine, which is why AI has generally faced increasing regulatory burden.

It's just that one government that jives with "Some of you may die, which is a sacrifice I am willing to make."

Show threadAstridFeb 4
@axbom well said
Show threadPer AxbomFeb 4
@astridpoot Thank you. How do I get your DIY Ethics handbook?
Show threadAstridFeb 4
@axbom i can send it to you!
Show threadWillemFeb 4
@axbom couldn't agree more!
Show threadPete / SyllopsiumFeb 4
@axbom They already understand the difference, but regulation doesn't create short term gains.
Show threadMichał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Feb 4

@axbom this.

Plus, regulation creates the space for innovation.

Regulating power sockets and electric current available through them made it possible for independent innovators to create new devices using electricity.

Regulating phone chargers made it easier for things like powerbanks to emerge.

Anti-trust regulations used to break Bell Systems stranglehold on electronics and telecommunication tech in the USA helped make the Internet happen.

Techbros are benefiting from regulation a lot.

Show threadEric LawtonFeb 4

@rysiek

They're just too privileged and egotistical to accept any limits.

The Epstein files prove that.

@axbom @bonaventuresoft

Show threadJay BearFeb 4
@axbom Regulation is always the bane of the money addicts
Show threadKirstyFeb 4

@axbom

Techbros are totally socially inept

Show threadnaturepokerFeb 4
@axbom true - not to mention, what regulation? AI companies had been taking whatever they want whenever they want for the last 6 or so years.
Show threadMatt FranzFeb 4
@axbom tech largely killed independent media and journalism so GLHF with that.
Show threadarclightFeb 4
@axbom "Regulation hurts innovation" is just as BS now as it was over a hundred years ago when a few boiler manufacturers got all pissy about the ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code. The same design and inspection code that dramatically reduced boiler explosions, and deaths by scalding, fire, and building collapse. It's the same entitled rich incompetents then as now.
Show threadIntaglio WhitegravenFeb 6
@arclight @axbom As someone who regularly has to design things to ASME BPVC VIII-1, I never thought I'd see a reference to it in the fedi-verse. 
Show threadarclightFeb 6
@axbom @Intaglio_Dragon I don't do mechanical design but I work in safety analysis; I'm more familiar with how & why the B&PV Code came about than actually using it. It's a bit pricy but ASME's history of the Code is pretty interesting and detailed - it's a good read for understanding how engineering got better at understanding and managing risk and not killing people https://asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/ebooks/book/246/The-Code-An-Authorized-History-of-the-ASME-Boiler
The Code: An Authorized History of the ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code

In recognition by its very nature, the ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code has always relied on committees and other groups, rather than on single individ

ASME Digital Collection
Show threadPer AxbomFeb 6
@arclight @Intaglio_Dragon

Now this is why I love the Fediverse. ❤️
Show threadIntaglio WhitegravenFeb 6
@arclight @axbom It's been said that safety regulations are written in blood. The Triangle Shirtwaist factory, the New London school explosion, the Boston molasses tank rupture, and the Kansas City Hyatt Regency walkway collapse are a few examples that come to mind.
Show threadIntaglio WhitegravenFeb 6

@axbom Adding to this thread, something I haven't yet seen mentioned: Adversarial interoperability.

While this is more a reference to standardization, standardization is essentially a form of regulation because it's some kind of overarching body (whose authority is respected) specifying the limits or boundaries of a product or process such that it complies.

Adversarial interoperability (as I understand it) is the antithesis of the "walled gardens" that seem to be a haven for so much of the tech sector. There's much less incentive to innovate or improve products/services when a company can shut out competition and make switching prohibitively difficult or costly. Which is why adversarial interoperability will almost always have to be imposed through regulation.