rose56I totally agree, too much is too much.
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plantfanaticOnly people who abuse the rules feel the need to say this.
Not shocking at all.
The RAM/Memory shortage is actually about Intel catching up. - Lemmy.World
There hasn’t been a real change. No new unplanned hardware is driving the sudden run on components. Yes, data centers, bla bla bla, but that is surface level nonsense. That hardware is slower to respond and the real world timeline does not make sense. There haven’t been any major breakthroughs in AI in the last two years, we are in an era of small incremental change along the periphery. Strangling memory, retards the entire market. It makes strategic sense to tank everything until Intel can get their house in order. It fits within the scope of Intel’s bailout and possible anecdotes. It is Epstein emails level logic typical of the terminal societal cancer of inherited wealth without meritocratic order. It gives China an enormous chance to catch up at the most critical time in silicon.
tomiantSame logic as “if you got nothing to hide you got nothing to worry about”. What a genuinely dumb fucking thing to say. It’s like saying “only criminals are against the death penalty hurr durr”.
you’re a dumbass if that’s the equivalence you derive from that statement.
There’s a a difference between abusing rules and breaking them. You fall into the former, not the latter.
Spin your own instance.
Fully unmoderated as you wish.
Enjoy your defederations and lack of users other than trolls and bots, oh and the visit from the gov when someone starts spewing csam onto it.
How insanely dichotomous stupidity. I am not at all saying “do not moderate”.
“All actions are harmful” is a statement of empathy and far more nuances than you understand. Your lack of fundamental logic skills are sad.
What the OP posted is extremely flawed logic. There is nothing partisan about the death of Alex Pretti. Wanting to talk about his death is something bipartisan and any halfwit should be able to discern as much if they take the time to think things through. This post is showing mob populism and a lack of morals and ethics that are super dangerous and idiotic. The actions taken against the post were deeply flawed, and the hate here is bigoted tribalistic nonsense. This is turning into a worthless echo chamber and it is driving out people with intellectual balance and half decent logic skills. How pathetic.
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sexy_peachIgnores the don’t X here sign then gets mad when they aren’t allowed to X
OpenStars“It’s so unfair!” … as if the identical thing is not being done to literally everyone else all the time. Toddler logic.
A nuance that people often miss about lemmy.ml’s authoritarian policies - whereby they ban people from communities they’ve never even seen before - is not that it is done, but that when it is it cites a hidden set of rules that are nowhere ever written down. Little kid logic.
Some people here are pushing for fascist Reddit 2.0, others for free-speech Voat, but most of us just want to get along somewhere in the middle without too much bother:-P.
My recollection is that Voat took a turn into being fascist Reddit 2.0 pretty quickly itself.
Took about two seconds.
UltraGiGaGiganticVoat was so fucking toxic. Radioactive hate swamp.
Turns out when you build a platform around anti-censorship you wind up with a small number of free speech enthusiasts and a large number of people who will be banned from any site with rules against hate speech.
Then when you have a site where 80% of the content is racism the 20% non racists leave.
Pretty much what happened to 4chan
Sir. HaxalotThe rules only matter if the admins adhere to them and enforces them consistently.
The issue with a “no politics” rule though is that everything is political. It ends up just being the mods removing what they want to remove and letting what they want to see stay.
Okay and if the users of that community are happy with that and you are free to stay away, where is the problem exactly?
The issue is that users generally don’t get a say. Even in the fediverse, moderators aren’t chosen democratically. Yeah, you can start your own community and try to build it up, but inertia is not in your favor.
Anyway, my point is that a “no politics” rule is not really reasonable. You can have one, and you can enforce it however you want. It will always just end up causing issues though. For example: look up Nazi degenerate art. It’s just art, right? However, to them it was political, and it was political in a way they didn’t like, so they removed it from society.
No moderator is perfect. Even if you trust them, blurry rules probably aren’t the best. There’s better ways to define the intent than “no politics” that create clear borders of what’s allowed and what isn’t. Blurry rules are usually best for those who want to abuse it.
I am excited to see how your lemmy instance works out. When will it go online?
I just saw this post on “All”. I’m not part of this community and I don’t care to open an alternative for it. I’m just point out how blurry rules are open for abuse. Just because you agree with the person running things today doesn’t mean someone in the future won’t use it to remove something you want to stay. I don’t understand how people don’t get this yet.
The issue is that users generally don’t get a say.
Yes that is because they don’t carry any of the responsibilities of running the server. Why would they be allowed to decide?
I already block so many keywords and communities here. It’s hard to keep up.
Thank you mods for helping keep some places free of US politics.
Not saying mod was wrong but… It’s weird how we define politics.
Like, if portals started randomly appearing all over the Earth, spawning little goblins that like to turn human bodies inside-out, that would pretty clearly not be politics — but only for like 2 months.
After a while, the political parties would settle on their positions (probably with one of them calling it a hoax), and from that point forward saying “I can’t believe people are okay with the inside-out goblins” will be labeled “political”.
Which I guess is basically how fascism wins so easily. As long as it’s impolite to acknowledge the horrors of the world, it’s okay for them to continue.
Still, though - c/shower thoughts?
Like, in all seriousness, I don’t think lack of ability to flood a Lemmy community, least of all the one in question, is going to have any effect on the matter. Like, at all.
RamenJunkieI mean, I think about the horros.of the world.in the shower.
We’re not the ones commiting the horrors of the world, nor are we the ones able to stop them. It’s not our job, duty or obligation to be confronted by them at all times, in all aspects of our lives.
Using it as an analogy, how does going to a bunch of kids who can barely take care of themselves and asking them to save the world actually help?
The people on fediverse already know about the horrors, most are against the horrors and are trying to help. They don’t need more requests or more prodding with a stick. They need more thanks for standing up instead, if anything.
The target audience is the wide world beyond this place. The ones that can help but don’t. The ones in charge or the ones putting them in charge.
A successful social interaction requires selecting the right audience and the correct circumstances. And a lot of the communities here ain’t either.
4gramsWe’re not the ones commiting the horrors of the world, nor are we the ones able to stop them. It’s not our job, duty or obligation to be confronted by them at all times, in all aspects of our lives.
This was the attitude of millions of Americans.
I don’t disagree with you at all, you didn’t do this, you aren’t responsible for it but it’s here nonetheless. My kiddo is recovering from surgery right now, it wasn’t his fault, he didn’t ask for it, but if we didn’t do something about it, he would have had terrible repercussions from it. Did we have to do it, no, we could have just noted it and hoped it would take care of itself. Was it unfair, absolutely. But he’s not got meds to take, and even though he didn’t have any any of this, he’s doing what he needs to to get better.
I’m truly sorry, as someone from one of the places fucking up the world. I too did not ask for this, and I’ve been trying as hard as I can to prevent and now stop this. The horrors will continue, it’s happening in places all across the world, I hope it doesn’t arrive for you.
Ok, so would you like me to follow you around lemmy and constantly remind you of your kid’s surgery on every single post, or would you like to continue being able to talk about things related to whatever community you’re in so that maybe for a brief second you can have a bit of peace?
I’d be willing to do that for you, if you feel like you’re missing out and like people shoving politics where it doesn’t belong just because “it’s here nonetheless,” I can shove your personal issues where they don’t belong for you and hopefully that cheers you up.
Sigh, analogies are a bit much for some people huh?
Sorry if some folks have shower thoughts about things that are happening in the world. Ignore the thoughts you can’t handle or grasp. The world has a lot of shit happening and a lot of people take showers.
Sigh, counting is just too much for some people. Turns out c/showerthoughts has more than one rule: must be showerthought. That is rule 1 but you’ll notice rule 3 is quite clear:
And they even offer an alternative appropriate community right there. So, y’know fuck off and stuff.
You are very angry about this. I’m conversing about the post here, I haven’t said a thing in showerhoughts. Doesn’t mean I don’t have an opinion.
Have a lovely day friendo.
Well, “the post here” is talking about posting political things in showerthoughts, a community with a rule saying “no politics,” and yes I’m very angry that I can’t even get a short respite from politics even where it’s disallowed by name. It’s incredibly annoying and contributing to political burnout not just for me but many others here too. You repeating the same line as those that ignore the community rules, “it’s happening regardless,” isn’t super helpful, and on a post where they’re all here defending their evangelism, yeah you came off as defending it too.
I don’t care if “it’s happening regardless,” when I go to c/dogpics to avoid it for a brief break I don’t need it there too, thus cheating me out of my break. It’s the internet equivalent of my boss making me work through my break at work and it’s just as annoying. Have all the opinions you want, just don’t post them in some community with “no opinions” in the sidebar and we’re all good.
You have a nice day too pal.
So don’t do the thing you seem incapable of doing and do not engage with it. I never forced you to read my posts, and this is a public forum where people can downvote to their hearts content.
The reason I’m even mentioning it is as a discussion. I’m not doing it, but I am also observant enough of human nature to know some rules on the side of the page won’t do shit. Just like the politics, either do something about it or ignore it.
Otherwise good luck changing reality.
I’m capable both of wanting a place to escape politics, and talking about how such spaces should be respected, and when the evangelists aren’t spreading their gospel where it doesn’t belong I can sometimes actually visit such spaces. This is the “talking about how such spaces should be respected” part, which happens to be on topic for the post about how such spaces should be respected. Nice try hun.
I get that you do, so downvote, get yourself an instance and ban accounts that break the rules, I’m 100% for it.
My initial post I was both agreeing with the comment about the sentiment, that they shouldn’t have to be confronted with it. The rest was an attempt to illustrate why it’s human nature and inevitable. I ended it saying I’m sorry assholes do it. I meant it both politically and in support of the sentiment.
So you attack and swear at me when I agree but happen to acknowledge that it’s going to fucking happen and suggest you learn to ignore it.
Grow the fuck up.
Oh I do downvote it a lot and ignore as much as I can, but on a post about it where it is being discussed I think it’s appropriate to discuss it. And so, discussion.
Murder is “going to fucking happen” too, doesn’t mean I have to “just ignore it bro” instead of saying “murderers are dicks and should stop murdering.”
If literal hell on earth was happening, and I was spending most of my real world time dealing with it, and there was nowhere I could go to escape from it and people exclusively talked about it all of the time, I would kill myself. We are allowed to stop talking about it sometimes.
Jo MiranThis is just as important for me, it’s a terrible fit for the Comm.
Schwim DandyI’m glad that those interested or in many cases, obsessed with politics have a place to discuss it but I have no interest in seeing it so In conjunction with instance and community blocking, I use the filters to block any new “hot” political word or phrase that I find my feed inundated with. Once the core block list is built, adding something new is only required every other week or so to keep the feed politics-free.
The instance and community blocks do the majority of the heavy lifting but a filter list is an absolute necessity to get rid of the users that insist on injecting politics into every community they find.
That being said. Is there a community to post thoughts that may be political in nature? Pretty much all of the communities I’ve seen (politics, etc) only allow links to articles in their rules.
I’d be interested in seeing a politicaldiscussions community that would allow for that. I just don’t have the time or energy to mod something like that or create and maintain a set of rules that would keep the discussions fair. I’d be hard pressed to find a way to prevent brigading and encourage positive discourse, even where I disagree.
The problem with cute animals now isn’t politics, it’s AI. I don’t want to watch ANY AI animals. Just the thought of being tricked into watching even 1/4 of a vid that ends up being AI, or giving it $$$ via views, has destroyed /awww and all the rest.
I hate this timeline.
ickplantI post in a lot of animal communities, and while I cannot speak for others, I do not knowingly upload AI. I even started checking with AI detectors, which is not something I’ve had to do even a year ago.
I think the rest of Lemmy (at least the core users) are very anti-AI and, like me, might only upload it by accident. So I assume good intent until proven otherwise.
What makes me feel better about Lemmy is knowing that no one is making money off of me. Even if I do end up falling for some AI - there are no influencers making a buck off it unlike on IG and FB and TikTok.