GinaFeb 11

Our Dutch gov delegation had a great work visit in @landesregierung and learned a lot about Schleswig-Holstein's #opensource journey. 🔥

These lessons will be integrated into our own #digitalsovereignty strategy. We'll also keep collaborating with SH, Germany and France to work towards a sovereign workspace.

Thanks again @digitalhubsh for organizing!! 🇩🇪🥨

Show threadAxelFeb 14
@Gina @landesregierung @digitalhubsh @bert_hubert

20000 work hours. Sounds a lot. Let’s give it a generous rate: €100 per hour. Then the man-hour cost for the transition is 2 million €: peanuts for a government and mere dents in the annual invoice of the big tech office license.
Show threadmalteFeb 14
@axel @Gina @landesregierung @digitalhubsh @bert_hubert 100€ is pretty average, though, maybe even lowballing 😬
Show threadMarcus MüllerFeb 14

@malte very much lowballing it, and not because developers are greedy, but because health, unemployment insurance and retirement funds need to be paid, and because these 20000 do not include the cost of infrastructure for hiring, paying and managing the developers.

@axel @Gina @landesregierung @digitalhubsh @bert_hubert

Show threadmalteFeb 14
@funkylab @axel @Gina @landesregierung @digitalhubsh @bert_hubert idk, i think the whole it-industry is a bit full of itself, and 100€ is an amount a social worker could only dream about, on the other hand i also like to use my leverage to negotiate other people's wages *up* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Show threadbert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦Feb 14
@malte @funkylab @axel @Gina @landesregierung @digitalhubsh these are the costs, not what someone receives. Which is a lot less. 100 euros/hour is more or less what Dutch government thinks the total costs are of an average worker. Not sure I agree btw.
Show threadmalteFeb 14

@bert_hubert @funkylab @axel but for freelancers those numbers would be the same, no?

either way, after having stated that the it-industry is a bit full of it, i feel i also need to state that we need to get all these wage-georges (aka billionaires) to cough up all these wages they swallowed up in their sleep, so social workers, teachers, plumbers, farmers, and healthcare workers can get a raise.

Show threadMarcus MüllerFeb 14
@malte @bert_hubert @axel need to be slightly to significantly higher, because the freelancer has to account for the cost of unemployed lifetime in his calculation, whereas an employer hasn't got to.
Show threadmalte
@funkylab @bert_hubert @axel yeah, but the freelancer prices that in?
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Show threadMarcus MüllerFeb 14
@malte @bert_hubert @axel yes, you need to add that risk. It's a personal assessment how many % of your rate you need to add for that.