schizoidmanFood firms urge Europe not to ban calling non-meat products ‘sausages’
alles hat ein ende…
… nur die Wurst hat zwei
KissakiBut such a ban is needed. Urgently.
They want to lie? They even think that their business depends on such lies? Then the market will eliminate them anyway, and nobody is going to mourn them.
Urgently? You get easily confused in the supermarket?
The fraudsters are actually making money.
By that same arguments you could also call meat lobby the fraudsters. They’re the ones whining, moaning and lobbying to the European parliament to get the ban in order. In stead of using regular sales tactics.
hakaseA sausage is a sausage, no matter what you stuff inside it. It’s the shape, use and all the practicalities of a sausage that determine that it’s a sausage.
When I hear “sausage” I know what to do with the thing. I can’t know what it includes.
Beef? Pork? Chicken? Horse? Peas? Beans? Mushroom? Tofu?
That’s too be determined by the other words on the package.
A sausage is a sausage, no matter what you stuff inside it
That is limited to english vocabulary I guess. In spanish there are distictions between salchichas, chorizos, longanizas, etc, and all of them are their own kind of “embutidos”. So in spanish, it would make sense to name it “embutido de guisantes”
Similarly with milk. I know you may milk nuts (jk), but not the “frutos secos” kind. How would you milk an oatmeal? A grain of rice?
And this is about the English word in the English use, with English rules, so let’s stick to those, shall we.
Milk is another word with another angle. The connotation is no longer, in everyday layman use, connected to “something you get out of a teet” and instead it is what children drink, you put in cereals or coffee, etc.
That’s the beauty about languages, they evolve with the needs of the populace that uses them.
We no longer live in an agrarian society, so when somebody now speaks of milk, you don’t think, “what did they milk it from”, you think “what are they going to put that thing in that they bought from a shop”.
evolve
I don’t think it means what you think it means.
That’s the beauty about languages, they evolve with the needs of the populace that uses them.
In this context, no, language does not evolve. It adapts to the way it is being used.
I certainly would not like to reach a point where we must use doublespeak-eske language to communicate with certain people, but it feels like we are heading there.
Oh ok. So the word evolve hasnt adapted to mean “slowly changes over time due to small changes” in day to day speak, along many other meanings. See pokemon, video game bosses etc. etc.
We already doublespeak in many situations. For example “theory” in layman’s terms is used like “hypothesis” instead of it’s true meaning. Where as it’s true meaning is pretty much only used in scientific terminology.
Anyway I’m sure 100% of people understood exactly what I meant.
Thank you
Language does evolve. Here are a few examples of the word being used in this context:
…nationalgeographic.org/…/resource-library-evolut…
Evolution of Language
Language allows us to share our thoughts, ideas, emotions, and intention with others. Over thousands of years, humans have developed a wide variety of systems to assign specific meaning to sounds, forming words and systems of grammar to create languages. Many languages developed written forms using symbols to visually record their meaning. Some languages, like American Sign Language (ASL), are an entirely visual language without the need for vocalizations. Although languages are defined by rules, they are by no means static, and evolve over time. Teach your students how the languages of the world have evolved over time, and how their own languages continue to evolve today with this curated collection of resources.
Milk of Magnesia. Coconut milk. Dandelion milk. These are all descriptions of very long standing (100s of years).
Che BananaTo answer the last they’re labeled:
Bebida de Soja (avena, almendras etc), sometimes adding ‘for baristas’…but that’s only one brand.
Soy Drink.
No milk in the description at all, that’s just for the English.
No milk in the description at all, that’s just for the English.
My point exactly. We need to differentiate between products. An “embutido” is not the same as a “fiambre” for example, even when you find both kind of “salchichas”
Also, this being an EU ruling proposal, it should meet the specs for all members, and english is only a fraction of the official spoken languages
But sure, I guess we all milk nuts every now and then ;) (this i is intended as a light hearted joke, you nuts)
I think the rules should be even stricter. An Hamburger should only be made in Hamburg, otherwise it’s a Minced Corpse Patty.
Found the vegan!
Their use of corpse. Generally vegans go this route. The idea is to make the food slightly less palatable and to cause thought about where meat comes from and the horrors some animals face.
But sometimes it’s just funny and makes meat sound more metal.
foliumcreationsThat’s a very metal name ! 🤟
Fucking metal. I’m in.
I hate that a sausage comes from a “food company” instead of a butcher. (Or grocer for vegan sausage)
So, food companies, just how much actual meat is there in your sausages and what animal parts are you using?
HansaeI couldn’t care less what you call them. You can call them vegetable dicks and I would still eat them. It’s just a ridiculous waste of resources powered by the meat lobby who have seen a portion of their market share disappear.
Sooo. There’s a word.
Kackwurst, die
Grammatik
Substantiv (Femininum)
- Genitiv Singular: Kackwurst
- Nominativ Plural: Kackwürste
Aussprache
[ˈkakvʊʁst]
Worttrennung
Kack-wurst
Clearly, this may be, or may not be a meat product. If they want to regulate something so so far, they must go all the way!
Are kackwursts vegetarian? Secreted products are, bjt excreted?
wiesonListen, I’m not a vegan, but I find this names that are bent around the bush so annoying.
Yeah, I get it , it’s not literally milk. But calling it “almond milk” is waaay smoother than “almond drink” or “almond concoction” or whatever.
Same with Malzbier.
The definition of milk literally includes plant milks. Milk has been used to describe these beverages for as long as the give existed.
I agree, but that’s not what the marketing law in Germany says. Not long ago, it was changed by conservatives to only include real cow’s milk.
gandalf_der_12teit doesn’t have to be the biggest problem in your life to take it seriously
I have seen coconut milk sold as ‘coconut drink’, even though it is not used as drink. That is stupid.
xepIn the case of coconut there’s both the milk and the water, and coconut drink is likely the water.
MinnesotaGoddamThe problem i have is just that i walk into a store, buy some cheese for my cheese toast, then later at home discover it’s not “cheese” but some disgusting mixture of plant oils and flavour agents that makes me want to vomit and throw up.
The problem is not vegan products existing, but them deceiving and tricking the ordinary person about what they are with no clear labeling. It simply has to be explicit that it is not what a normal person thinks when they read “cheese”, but some other experimental food instead.
Meshuggah333That’s BS and you know it is, stop lying and you’ll feel less hollow inside.
that’s not true. you’re claiming to know me better than i know myself. what hybris
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Alternatively: VVurst
or wurßt
JiffyBag
Pantherina (he)“Minced corpse in colon + antibiotics”
whalerossI’m a happy meat eater and considering the number of different kinds of sausage with all different ingredients in different proportions and different textures and different herbs and spices and different skins and different sizes and different ways to prepare them I think this is absolutely ridiculous.
If tiny dried sausages with lamb and herbs in natural skin are just as much sausage as spiced up raw mince in a plastic skin are just as much sausage as precooked hot dogs with pork and salt but mostly potato filler in mysterious edible non natural skin, then a sausage with vegetable mash for filling is definitely a sausage as well.
WIZARD POPE💫Yeah sausage is at least in my eyes a form of food. Kinda like a loaf of bread can be different types of bread so can a sausage be different meat (or not even meat at all).
Captain AggravatedDo hot dogs legally qualify as sausages in the EU?