Jonathan Worth
Dan GillmorIf you have a Ring (Amazon) camera, you are -- or will become -- a tool of the surveillance state. Is that really what you want to be?
xs4me2What could possibly go wrong…
Pamela Barroway – Biz Editor@dangillmor This eventuality is exactly why I researched and purchased a Eufy instead of Ring. Eufy records locally, not the cloud, on a continuous loop that overwrites itself about every 90 days.
Shredd Tone 
@PamelaBarroway @dangillmor Smart move! In fact, we need to go back to the days where everything was stored locally as oppose to depending on companies to collect, store our data for exploitation.
Just keep things safe and simple. That and it will also cut down on all the electricity that gets wasted too.
Fokeu🌸@Shredd_Tone @PamelaBarroway @dangillmor you are right. It seems like people forgot that cloud is just a fancy name for storing data on someone's computer
@Fokeu @PamelaBarroway @dangillmor Well...more specifically set networks of computers/servers sending data everywhere to selected companies, data centers and whatnot.
But whatever the hell the 'Cloud' is, and especially in regards to this case, it's data getting scraped on our personal lives and getting exploited for personal profit that benefits authoritarianism and potential Oligarchs.
(roll m3tti)@dangillmor who would have see that coming with all this convenient tools and technologies from all this "don't be evil" rougecapitalist companies.
Patrick@dangillmor thanks for sharing! I thought I was the only one who was scared about this ad. Combined with Tesla camera surveillance this is a wonderful toolset for any authoritarian government.
dryad@dangillmor it was my IMMEDIATE thought, especially recently, much as the doggo thing is cute (and very clever cutewashing).
@dangillmor Dammit! Why does society choose to walk into these things all the time? 
We could've easily avoided all of this if we choose to just reject this, but that's only possible if we choose to. 
Flora and Fungi@dangillmor I wonder if we have to worry about other ring type cameras too or just Ring camera... a member of my household just bought an offbrand one...
Lenora@dangillmor that's why I don't own one.
Wenzel Massag@dangillmor here in Germany it’s illegal to have video surveillance that films more than your own property. You can’t surveil a street or sidewalk.
Legislation the US could have, even under 🍊👹, because it could be local/state.
Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸@dangillmor Yeah right, but if you don't have this camera, what are people gonna post in Instagram???? Look I'm sharing my house, my address, my dog, my child, my 100% location...but hey, how funny Is this video of me scaring an Amazon delivery guy. 🤦
HTPC NZ@dangillmor unfortunately when stupid neighbours install multiple of these crap... So sick of hearing "You are currently being recorded" loudly day & night. Only hope is Jeff gets more greedy and make them obsolete or make the subscription costs go through the roof.
Connor Cadellin@dangillmor this is why we have security cameras running Thingino, which is open source and not beholden to corporate interests or misuse.
bouriquet@dangillmor If it’s on WiFi, the data passes through a number of servers and is “stored” somewhere, even if “temporarily”.
And that’s probably obscured in the long fine-print agreement you acknowledged before activating the camera.
And that’s probably obscured in the long fine-print agreement you acknowledged before activating the camera.
The Turtle@dangillmor just call them what they are:
IF YOU HAVE A RING DOORBELL YOU'RE A TIMID, PARANOID TOOL.
Feral Fury 🏴☠️ 🏳️🌈 🫂🔞@dangillmor In many of their cases yes it is
Molytov
Mike Fraser
Finistere2812 📯💚@dangillmor Just throw the Ring into the Fire (TV Stick).
Sarah Gulleyhttps://www.hamiltonnolan.com/p/remove-your-ring-camera-with-a-claw@[email protected]
Defining this entire parade by the theoretical possibility of a small handful of negative outliers doesn’t guarantee you peace of mind. Rather, it guarantees the opposite: an unceasing focus on the worst, a needless hypervigilance bleeding into anxiety. Thrown into this disordered state, you find yourself easy prey for those who would invent solutions to this imagined problem that they themselves have conjured. The mask of safety hides the sallow face of the predator.
Defining this entire parade by the theoretical possibility of a small handful of negative outliers doesn’t guarantee you peace of mind. Rather, it guarantees the opposite: an unceasing focus on the worst, a needless hypervigilance bleeding into anxiety. Thrown into this disordered state, you find yourself easy prey for those who would invent solutions to this imagined problem that they themselves have conjured. The mask of safety hides the sallow face of the predator.