Essem 
there is still no viable alternative to discord and you are kidding yourself if you say there is
regarding matrix: i should not have to fight with my chat application to be able to send a single message and have people receive it
you'll know when an alternative comes along that i'd consider viable when i release an official esmbot port for it
if you're going to reply to this thread with some other software that you think could be a viable replacement for discord then i'd prefer that you actually have experience with using discord a decent amount
no, your 1-on-1 e2ee instant messenger or irc client does not meet the criteria
one of my biggest worries is adversarial lock-in; this is a big issue with discord right now, and is part of why i don't see most clones (e.g. stoat, root, fluxer) as viable alternatives
i want to be able to trust that this won't happen, and just saying "we would never do this! ☺️" isn't enough
Diego Assustado@esm what does adversarial lock-in mean?
@diegovsky effectively having everything (e.g. identity, chats) being stuck under the control of a single, large entity, without any way to change that which doesn't involve losing everything in the process