there is still no viable alternative to discord and you are kidding yourself if you say there is
regarding matrix: i should not have to fight with my chat application to be able to send a single message and have people receive it
you'll know when an alternative comes along that i'd consider viable when i release an official esmbot port for it

if you're going to reply to this thread with some other software that you think could be a viable replacement for discord then i'd prefer that you actually have experience with using discord a decent amount

no, your 1-on-1 e2ee instant messenger or irc client does not meet the criteria

@esm not even just 1-on-1. most other chat appllications just do group chats, and i think that's just really not enough. discord servers i dont even think are a new concept but nobody seems to want to do anything like it