Essem 
there is still no viable alternative to discord and you are kidding yourself if you say there is
regarding matrix: i should not have to fight with my chat application to be able to send a single message and have people receive it
you'll know when an alternative comes along that i'd consider viable when i release an official esmbot port for it
if you're going to reply to this thread with some other software that you think could be a viable replacement for discord then i'd prefer that you actually have experience with using discord a decent amount
no, your 1-on-1 e2ee instant messenger or irc client does not meet the criteria
det (θΔ)@esm has stoat ever come up on your radar? it has pretty solid feature parity with discord last i checked (which, tbf, was when i was using discord, which was years ago)
it also has options to self host your own homeserver and federate with others i believe, but the main option that is most apparent and that id imagine most folks, use is the server run by the devs of the application itself, making onboarding others much simpler
i could be wrong on some details, but thats the general gist i believe?
i also do agree matrix is not a viable alternative to discord, though for me thats because it reads moreso as an irc clone than a discord clone with its much stronger focus on singular room than servers with several rooms, as well as its much stronger focus on decentralization
i am really unsure how the idea that matrix is a discord alternative came to be, probably by folks who havent used irc before actually lol
it also has options to self host your own homeserver and federate with others i believe, but the main option that is most apparent and that id imagine most folks, use is the server run by the devs of the application itself, making onboarding others much simpler
i could be wrong on some details, but thats the general gist i believe?
i also do agree matrix is not a viable alternative to discord, though for me thats because it reads moreso as an irc clone than a discord clone with its much stronger focus on singular room than servers with several rooms, as well as its much stronger focus on decentralization
i am really unsure how the idea that matrix is a discord alternative came to be, probably by folks who havent used irc before actually lol
@esm oh i
didnt notice the first post on this thread has
36 fucking replies holy shit
you upset fucking everyone by saying theres not alternative to discord, holy shittt
(or maybe its not anger driven idk i havent scrolled it yet)
also lemme fact check on stoat and federation rq...
...
doesnt seem like its a feature yet, seems like theres discussion on such a feature being added in the future, but for the time being its just, not there (https://github.com/orgs/stoatchat/discussions/103)
darn
well, i suppose i can also mention fluxer, one of my friends is suuuper into it rn even if it reads as a bit, shaky, to me
gives me vibes similar to bluesky is a very very negative way
regardless, i know it has federation either implemented or on the upcoming feature pipeline, and overall seems like
a literal discord clone
so im unsure if that ever came up in the massive thread you have here, but if not
theres something
didnt notice the first post on this thread has
36 fucking replies holy shit
you upset fucking everyone by saying theres not alternative to discord, holy shittt
(or maybe its not anger driven idk i havent scrolled it yet)
also lemme fact check on stoat and federation rq...
...
doesnt seem like its a feature yet, seems like theres discussion on such a feature being added in the future, but for the time being its just, not there (https://github.com/orgs/stoatchat/discussions/103)
darn
well, i suppose i can also mention fluxer, one of my friends is suuuper into it rn even if it reads as a bit, shaky, to me
gives me vibes similar to bluesky is a very very negative way
regardless, i know it has federation either implemented or on the upcoming feature pipeline, and overall seems like
a literal discord clone
so im unsure if that ever came up in the massive thread you have here, but if not
theres something
