BrilliantantTurd4361Non-US cloud storage for backup?
As the prices widely varry by storage size, you may want to add a size estimate, but i can say that anything above a couple tb is probably more expansive than finding a selhosted solution.
Daniel Gerdesmann@BrilliantantTurd4361 Germany-based filen.io might be worth a look. Or a Hetzner-managed Nextcloud.
redlemaceThen don’t go to the cloud! (or use encrypted storage if you really have to)
My view: Unless I can access the hardware 24/7/365 the data isn’t mine for ‘they’ can deny me access to my data anytime while they keep full access. (hence store it decryped)
A hard drive in a PO Box; data encrypted. Retrieve it occasionally to sync it with your local storage.
Or family.
This is good, if they:
- Understand & trust what you’re doing and don’t fiddle with it
- Don’t understand and just don’t fiddle with it
Luckily I have a family member that fits one of those categories.
I completely get the paranoia component of needing to control all factors involved. I have that too regarding my data. But at some point trust is needed.
PO boxes can burn down. The power grid can fry everything. Even the backup as soon as you plug it in. The government can create a kind of gestapo and let them loose and you won’t have the right to run a server anyways (uh?). Etc…
dlrdp- shadow.tech (fast, not so expensive)
- Proton Drive
- or look for a managed Nextcloud solution (Murena Workspace, etc.)
RheinishI can recommend Hetzner Storage Boxes. The company is located in Germany, but you can choose server locations in Germany and in Finland. You can set it up with Rclone’s Crypt feature to encrypt all your files.
+1 for Hetzner
I’m using restic to encrypt my files (content + filenames)
SwizzleStickSame setup here, Hetzner/Rclone with enc. Script runs daily on the NAS to beam everything up. Very happy.
Make at least one offline copy of what you need to decrypt and keep separate though. An inaccessible encrypted backup is no backup at all.
SavvyWolfI’ve been using Hetzner boxes for my backups, although I did need to send them a copy of my id, which may or may not fit the paranoia thing.
Of course, encryption is always worth it.
They never asked me for that (UK here). Was up and running with just the basics in minutes. Are you on a list? 😅
They do have a waiting/payment cycle period on their server offering before they’ll open mail ports. Once you qualify, you still need to raise a ticket to ask. That was a bit annoying as my new ISP is stricter with the ports than prior, meaning I had to wait before my relay workaround could send mail.
LerajeNot pricey, e2ee clients, open source, servers in Germany, 10gb free tier to try them out. Been using them for a few years now. The clients used to be a bit crap but they’re very good now.
if this is for privacy i’d just use the cheapest/fastest option that supports rclone and use its encrypted upload feature.
irmadladSyncthing and an old android device with a big ass ssd connected
Just use client-side encryption, then it doesn’t matter where it goes
JustEnoughDucksKopia is great for this. Choose your encryption, built in support for different provider storage tyoes in the GUI to choose where to go, dedupe, folder structure scramble, etc…
I know you specifically asked for non-US back up solutions, but I honestly don’t think you can beat Backblaze’s personal tier, as far as pricing. $99 per year for unlimited storage. Solid company, I’ve been using them for years. If you are encrypting your backups, and following the 3,2,1 back up schema, should Uncle Sam grab your backup, it’s pretty much useless and you still have a couple backups in hand. You can encrypt with VeraCrypt or similar, and push that up the pipe to BackBlaze.
The caveats to using BackBlaze are, whatever you are backing up, has to be connected to the PC/Server. So, no NAS although someone here mentioned a work around for that, so if you go the BackBlaze, make sure you ask here what that option is because my frail brain cannot remember what the name of it was, but apparently it works well. Other such options would be rclone, Mountain Duck, ExpanDrive, or odrive. These are unofficial softwares, and can/could lead to termination of your account. Secondly, if you’re pushing aver 10 TB to BackBlaze and you need to restore, 10 TB is going to be a bitch to do online. However, you can ‘rent’ a HDD from BackBlaze. They’ll mail it to you, you restore your data, and send the drive back for a full refund, or keep it should you wish.
I receive no compensation from BackBlaze for this recommendation.
They also support restic if you get snowed at borg lock issues.
ikidd
neodc
artyomihostart.com one of the cheapest I know.
ardrive.io for a permanent, encrypted, decentralized, blockchain based solution.
I currently use Infomaniak object storage with restic.
I like it since it’s Openstack and if they ever go to shit I can easily switch to another Openstack provider. OVH is also one I have used in the past.
sbirdpCloud is pretty good, and there is an option for an EU server. It doesn’t have a Linux client though, so now I use Jottacloud, which is hosted in Norway and has a (CLI) Linux client that works quite well! I also have a locally hosted Nextcloud instance as another backup. More backups is always good!
pCloud has a Linux client. Both GUI and CLI. But I personally use rclone for all cloud services. It is often even more reliable and offers better performance than official clients. It also allows managing multiple cloud services from the same place. It supports client-side encryption as well.
Are you using rclone for nextcloud? I really wish they implement VFS at some point! This is the only thing I am missing from my windows days as the daily driver.
What about hetzner storeagebox? www.hetzner.com/de/storage/storage-box/ with client side encryption ? It’s cheap and reliable, supports all common file transfer methods - the encryption can and likely should anyway be done by your preferred backup tool?
Others have suggested: encrypt data on your side and you don’t need to worry about where you store it. Cryptomator is a good option.
As for storage, the feedback on Hetzner boxes seems to be good and i’m happy with mega.
As for storage, the feedback on Hetzner boxes seems to be good and i’m happy with mega.
PortNullI used to use B2 before the whole CEO financial issues came out (not another one accused of something unsavoury) and wasn’t sure how it’s going to pan out. I switched to a cheaper (per GB) Hetzner storage box and am super happy with it
I use restic, specifically github.com/garethgeorge/backrest for making backups and uploading them via rclone.
It was some dodgy accounting accusations/reveals arstechnica.com/…/backblaze-responds-to-claims-of…
For me it was an excuse to try something new and cover my ass just in case this didn’t pan out. But overall it looks to have blown over
theregister.com/…/backblaze_sham_accounting_claim…
Backblaze strongly denies all the allegations, and claims instead that Morpheus is attempting to manipulate its stock price for financial gain. The firm admits to holding short positions in Backblaze shares.
Not saying that the Morpheus report isn’t true, but that’s a pretty damning conflict of interest.
Syncthing for synchronization between devices, then rsync to a couple of flash drives for cold backup
Setup is so easy, you don’t even need a server for this, just your ordinary PC
There is no more paranoid solution than owning your files by yourself, so you never have to trust the third party