inclementimmigrantFeb 5

"Schumer needs to get the hell out": House Democrats fume over DHS funding talks

https://lemmy.world/post/42708963

"Schumer needs to get the hell out": House Democrats fume over DHS funding talks - Lemmy.World

Well sounds like the Democratic leadership to aggressively court disgruntled voters and listening and addressing their concerns is off to a great start with this.

Show threadsupersquirrelFeb 5
The DNC is controlled opposition and the fact that centrists are in denial about it puts all of us in great peril.
Show threadChonkyOwlbearFeb 5
Tinfoil hat conspiracy theory right there.
Show threadAmidFuror

If you don't have at least one of the phrases "controlled opposition" or "manufactured consent" in your comment, you're not really a good bootlicker for left-wing authoritarians.

In b4 "All authoritarians are right-wing" and "No True Communist" objections.

Feb 5 at 3:59pmWeb
Show threadI_JediFeb 5
Jokes on them. I favor parties that advocate for the extinction of the human species. Left or right doesn’t matter so long as humanity is wiped out completely.
Show threadTrickDacyFeb 5
That just sounds like a description of fascism.
Show threadI_JediFeb 5
Fascism needs people to rule over. Extinction, by definition, means nobody to rule over upon success.
Show threadsamus12345Feb 5
Fascism must always have a target to persecute. The logical end game is everyone is dead.
Show threadI_JediFeb 5
Well my preference is to sterilize the whole population so the species is infertile. Wouldn’t have to kill anyone at all to achieve extinction.
Show threadproleFeb 6
Wow so edgy and cool
Show threadI_JediFeb 6
You think so too? Hell yeah.
Show threadSoggyFeb 5
It’s ecofascism.
Show threadproleFeb 5
What left-wing authoritarians??? What fucking year is it??
Show threadAmidFurorFeb 5

"No True Communist"

No country claiming to be Communist is actually Communist.

Show threadproleFeb 5
That’s not what I said. Can you answer the question I posed?
Show threadAmidFurorFeb 5
It's 2026.
Show threadKnock_Knock_Lemmy_InFeb 6
And the other part of the question?
Show threadAmidFurorFeb 6
Recently, the Castros, Chavez, Maduro, and Xi.
Show threadKnock_Knock_Lemmy_InFeb 6

None of which have used the phrases “controlled opposition” or “manufactured consent”, because none are American.

An authoritarian left wing US politician may be exactly what is needed in the current situation, but i don’t think you’ll be able to name one.

Show threadAmidFurorFeb 6

I didn't imply there were famous American* left-wing authoritarian leaders who have had an opportunity to gain the power they desire. I was talking about Americans on the left who would willingly support some ill-meaning populist who parroted their favorite talking points. They think harm could never come from someone on their side despite numerous historical examples because those people are retconned to be right-wing once they seize power.

You've stepped in on behalf of the other guy and managed to really derail things.

*Chavez, Maduro, Fidel, and Raul are/were all Americans, and not only Americans speak English, but I know what you meant.

Show threadKnock_Knock_Lemmy_InFeb 6

Americans on the left who would willingly support some ill-meaning populist who parroted their favorite talking points

Oh yes, these definitely exist. I wouldn’t describe any as authoritarian.

I would also add that (US) Americans idea of far left is Bernie Sanders who looks pretty centralist to the rest of the world.

Show threadproleFeb 6
Got it, so no you can’t. There are none.
Show threadAmidFurorFeb 6
Do you mean in the world or in charge of the USA? Because the current g<y is the closest we've gotten to an authoritarian so far, and he's not left-wing.
Show threadPunnyNameFeb 7
Calling out a potential fallacy is useless if you can’t actually correct with information.