Daniel SaidiI did my best to protest pure data driven development when I was at eBay Sweden 10+ years ago. But it was impossible to debate against the mellow San Diego guy who in his mild way explained that "well, that's just how we do it in the valley". The rest is data harvesting history.
Dennis Parussini@danielsaidi I'm having the same conversations with my boss lately. Hard to convince him that we can also just build a cool product. 🤷🏻♂️
@tattooedDev You can't argue with data, it will always win if the company and management level doesn't have a product vision or perhaps even an idea about what they want to build...you can always measure and pick what converts best according to some pre-determined wish list.
@danielsaidi I actually find it funny how they sell it like they're trying to find pain points for users, but then compare the numbers against some other arbitrary numbers to see if they met their "goals". If they would at least be honest about it. 🙄
Drew Pickard@danielsaidi
Internal at MS (as a designer) I had a long meeting with a Bing PM who went into incredible amounts of detail about min-maxing every single pixel in A/B/C/D/E tests to eke out tiny fractional percentage improvements over time to earn a cumulative $3MM
and then I asked him why the image of the Bing logo was pixelated and he said “oh I did that accidentally when I merged on vacation and haven't had time to fix it in the last couple of weeks”
@drewpickard Hahaha that’s a wonderful story! 😂
Deborah Rose ❌👑@danielsaidi That’s an interesting statement about the "mellow" San Diego guy. I worked in healthcare quality and risk management and all we did was analyze and argue about data here in the San Diego area. He may have just not cared.
@DebErupts Data driven or informed development is not bad in itself, but we all know where it mostly ends up (especially in “free” public facing software) :)