Stefan BohacekFeb 4

Blacksky has already built their own ATProto stack that's fully independent from Bluesky.

Now Eurosky is making progress as they roll out their own PDS.

I see more independent infrastructure springing up on https://atp.fyi/network, including AppViews.

For anyone hoping that we'll get another wave of people coming to the fediverse once Bluesky folds/enshittifies, that might not necessarily be the case as people will have more options to stay in the Atmosphere.

#fediverse #atmosphere #ATProto #bluesky #SocialMedia

Bluesky network map

Show threadRoni Rolle LaukkarinenFeb 4
@stefan I like that things are becoming more federated. What makes me a bit sad is that we still can't all be online using the same protocol. But then again, that's nothing new, people have always been spread across different platforms anyway, Tumblr, Facebook, Twitter... without being able to communicate with each other.
Show threadStefan BohacekFeb 4

@rolle I guess if the fediverse keeps pushing people away, and ATProto gains wide enough adoption, and it becomes easy to run your whole stack, I might just look into that.

Until then, I'll have to stick with the fediverse, as that's the only truly grassroots option.

Show threadLentävä KalakukkoFeb 4

@stefan @rolle

I just don't get the whole "fediverse pushing people away" angle, at all. Care to elaborate?

There are millions of users and thousands of servers on the fediverse. All kinds of people, from all over the world. It's not one homogenous mass "pushing people away" or "being unwelcoming". You just couldn't make that happen even if you tried.

Show threadStefan BohacekFeb 4

@pahoittelemme Are you thinking of millions of inactive users?

https://fedidb.com

https://mastodon-analytics.com

The hostility, particularly towards Black people has been well documented.

https://logicmag.io/policy/blackness-in-the-fediverse-a-conversation-with-marcia-x/

https://privacy.thenexus.today/start-making-the-fediverse-less-toxic/

Every few days there is a woman talking about the sexism on here. Seems really hard to miss this stuff.

@rolle

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Show threadTio ÉbioFeb 4
@stefan this is super serious. A question I keep thinking is if people don't face those things on BlueSky and other networks? @pahoittelemme @rolle
Show threadStefan BohacekFeb 4

@eberfreitas I think it's a combination of a more relaxed audience on there, and tools for managing harassment, like reply controls.

I'm sure there's plenty of harassment on there, just like there has been on Twitter. But at least you can lock your replies when things get out of hand, and move on.

@pahoittelemme @rolle

Show threadRoni Rolle LaukkarinenFeb 5

@stefan

I hope these get implemented some day:
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/8565
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/14762

@eberfreitas @pahoittelemme

Show threadTio Ébio
@rolle @stefan @pahoittelemme it looks like @gotosocial already implements some of this: https://docs.gotosocial.org/federation/interaction_controls/
Feb 5 at 1:24amWeb
Show threadStefan BohacekFeb 5

@eberfreitas Yes, plus apparently reply controls are already part of the protocol, just no implemented in Mastodon.

https://cosocial.ca/@evan/115845933168353699

@rolle @pahoittelemme