What? You are here for integrating all electronics into some internet connected spying machine to record everything we do and send it to data brokers/ peter thiel, bezos’ house?

“Integrating” your tv, your thermostat, your refrigerator, toaster, oven, microwave, etc., into a subscription model in time at that. You will be paying money or forced to watch ads for using your own purchased electronics that were owned unreservedly in full in all generations prior, but now you are in effect just renting their operating system of the device, and criminally forbidden from changing/editing it. Hackers, the government, business groups, other organized interests can brick all your appliances at any moment, or spy on everyone in the vicinity.

The people I’ve spoken with are all against these so called smart devices, the purveyors of which are removed from consequence as long as they share/sell the information to the government as well, not the least removed from consequence for flooding social media with influence operations, mechanized, now with ai chatbots new models coming soon, to drown out real people, give them a false impression of how the public feels, instill a hopelessness, and sell things just like this.

Ignorant of what they are doing acceding to the oligarchy in accepting, paying for the spyware, giving a mass of information to those interests and by extension the government, foreign governments, hackers, organized interests, ect, that previous oligarchies and tyrants couldn’t dream of,

Please get a grip of what the post is instead of rambling such nonsense at the sight of some topic that’s only vaguely related to what you wrote.

Condemning owning “smart devices” is not half baked, it’s common sense and you trusting you can keep them from spying on you is naive, and as I told another person, you should get checked for taxoplasmosis, which affects the fear center in the brain and could be widespread. I’m serious about that too.

Condemning bullshit “smart” stuff and cloud independence is why people are using home assistant. But if you just want to rant and don’t care about the topic instead of learning what’s discussed here, I’ll not reply any further.

My point is not to buy internet connected devices that have no business being internet capable in the first place.

Then that there are vulnerabilities in the security that can be exploited even when you think you are safe. It’s great to minimize the vulnerabilities, not as great as not enshitifying those appliances in the first place.

Also on this forum you should anticipate that attitude and address it in the post.

Home Assistant users are huge on devices with full local control (no internet connection required). Yes, HA works with cloud-connected devices too, but HA itself is just a platform for connecting all your devices together.

Most users here probably agree with you about avoiding internet connected devices, but your condemnation of HA makes it sound like you have no idea what HA is.

Well obviously I did have no idea what home assistant was. On this forum that should be expected and answered in the post itself however. Obviously you are going to get that, along with people that skip it entirely because of it.