Home Assistant will create a device database

https://lemmy.nocturnal.garden/post/501168

Home Assistant will create a device database - Nocturnal Lemmy

I’m choosing devices based on how good they work with zha and HA and usually have to browse a bit before settling for something. If they manage to implement this properly, I’m all here for it. Maybe they should talk to the zigbee device compatibility repository people (or maybe they already have).

What? You are here for integrating all electronics into some internet connected spying machine to record everything we do and send it to data brokers/ peter thiel, bezos’ house?

“Integrating” your tv, your thermostat, your refrigerator, toaster, oven, microwave, etc., into a subscription model in time at that. You will be paying money or forced to watch ads for using your own purchased electronics that were owned unreservedly in full in all generations prior, but now you are in effect just renting their operating system of the device, and criminally forbidden from changing/editing it. Hackers, the government, business groups, other organized interests can brick all your appliances at any moment, or spy on everyone in the vicinity.

The people I’ve spoken with are all against these so called smart devices, the purveyors of which are removed from consequence as long as they share/sell the information to the government as well, not the least removed from consequence for flooding social media with influence operations, mechanized, now with ai chatbots new models coming soon, to drown out real people, give them a false impression of how the public feels, instill a hopelessness, and sell things just like this.

Ignorant of what they are doing acceding to the oligarchy in accepting, paying for the spyware, giving a mass of information to those interests and by extension the government, foreign governments, hackers, organized interests, ect, that previous oligarchies and tyrants couldn’t dream of,

Please get a grip of what the post is instead of rambling such nonsense at the sight of some topic that’s only vaguely related to what you wrote.
Condemning owning “smart devices” is not half baked, it’s common sense and you trusting you can keep them from spying on you is naive, and as I told another person, you should get checked for taxoplasmosis, which affects the fear center in the brain and could be widespread. I’m serious about that too.
Condemning bullshit “smart” stuff and cloud independence is why people are using home assistant. But if you just want to rant and don’t care about the topic instead of learning what’s discussed here, I’ll not reply any further.

My point is not to buy internet connected devices that have no business being internet capable in the first place.

Then that there are vulnerabilities in the security that can be exploited even when you think you are safe. It’s great to minimize the vulnerabilities, not as great as not enshitifying those appliances in the first place.

Also on this forum you should anticipate that attitude and address it in the post.

Home Assistant users are huge on devices with full local control (no internet connection required). Yes, HA works with cloud-connected devices too, but HA itself is just a platform for connecting all your devices together.

Most users here probably agree with you about avoiding internet connected devices, but your condemnation of HA makes it sound like you have no idea what HA is.

Well obviously I did have no idea what home assistant was. On this forum that should be expected and answered in the post itself however. Obviously you are going to get that, along with people that skip it entirely because of it.

Well obviously I did have no idea what home assistant was.

Yes, this was obvious, but it didn’t keep you from ranting as if you did.

If you want to call ranting making valid points not addressed in the post. There is no reason to have internet connected everything, you cannot trust that they aren’t exporting your data even with home assistant. You should address that in your post or expect such commentary.

Saying “my point is valid” does not make an argument valid. You’re presenting as a 2nd year computer science student who is mad because they just learned that Microsoft is less than trustworthy. Who read an article about toxoplasmosis recently.

Most of the devices connecting to Home Assistant are using air gapped, non-wifi networks. A lot of them don’t have a TCP/IP stack, much less a radio capable of connecting to the internet.

Home Assistant is an open source project. It’s not a thing constructed by a company for sale. You are in a lemmy instance talking about it, which is why the people reading about a version update to it, know what it is.

Yes, there could be a magical way for “them” to secretly gather data on everything you do. But at that point they don’t need the smart devices.

You are in a lemmy instance talking about it, which is why the people reading a post about a version update to it, know what it is.

Not to mention that this post is specifically in the Home Assistant-community, which describes the FOSS, local control and privacy aspects of it in the community description.

On this forum

You mean the homeassistant community? For Home Assistant users? I think it’s taken for granted here that people know what HA is, and that doesn’t seem unreasonable. I wouldn’t expect every post in /c/android to explain what Android is.