It really is a little absurd that “I’m considering switching to Linux on my laptop for better availability of games” is a real thought in my head. Valve have made strange things happen
@misty and MS. chasing that AI brass ring is leading to them losing all of their existing market share in OSes, consoles, etc.....
@wohali It's funny, when Windows 10 was new I genuinely thought it was a step up from previous versions. They've managed to make Windows so much worse so quickly.

@misty @wohali
Really? Windows 10 was the only Windows version that was so bad that Microsoft decided the only option was to force install it without users' consent.

It started downhill with Windows 8 and has been getting worse ever since. How was Windows 10 a step up for you?

@leeloo @misty @wohali not the only one, they did that to a few friends with 11, except this time much earlier
@leeloo @misty @wohali Windows 7 feels like the last version of Windows that I thought had real promise for a better future. Windows 10 at least course-corrected the mess that was Windows 8 where they tried to make everything feel like a tablet, but I think you're right that they had already started to backslide into the mess we have today.
@tedmielczarek @misty @wohali
Windows 10 still looks like a tablet to me.
@misty i'm curious as to what fucked up sequence of events led to this in your case
@misty one of my 4 Guys Co-op group couldn't play for 2 weeks because Borderlands kept crashing his Windows 11 machine, decked out with a fancy new video card. While at the same time, another guy, with the same fancy card, played along just fine on his Linux box.
@misty the fact that the Linux gaming renaissance is happening in part because one guy really loves 2B is like poetry, I love it

@SnoopJ

*gets out of cave*

What? Is N:A available on Linux now? It had been quite a deal breaker when I tried to switch to Linux last time.

@misty

Edit: I somehow completely f*cked my at's, and also typo...

@axnxcamr @misty congratulations, this is the best thing I've read all day 
@axnxcamr @misty @SnoopJ this is the best bit of trivia to share, but a big part of Linux game compatibility is modern DirectX 11/12 support which exists because one developer wanted to play NeiR so badly that he made the drivers to do it. I believe he works for Valve now, but the important part is that Proton was *made* to play N:A

@raven667 @axnxcamr @misty he did it, the mad-man did it.

her wish that someday, somehow, that she could save everyone of us, even though she's just one girl

he made it rEAL

@axnxcamr @misty @SnoopJ we actually played it on Mint just a few weeks ago. Proton-GE, no complaints.

@axnxcamr @misty @SnoopJ if by "N:A" you're referring to Nier Automata, it's been playable through Proton for years, I've played it on both my desktop and Steam Deck

...if it's something else then I have no idea 💀

Yes, I meant NieR:Automata.

I must admit that my process at the time has been installing Linux, installing Steam, playing a bunch of games and eventually wanting to play NieR:A, not seeing it in the available games and going back to Windows.

Maybe I ought to try again. 2026 might just be MY year of Linux on the desktop ;)

@hazelnot @misty @SnoopJ

@axnxcamr @hazelnot @misty oh, dear, I had thought stepping out of the cave was a joke, because yes it's *very* much a thing now.

It's so much a thing that DXVK exists about it, and by extension Proton has become a shockingly viable target for games, especially with Valve's investment in this market segment.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2018/09/an-interview-with-the-developer-of-dxvk-part-of-what-makes-valves-steam-play-tick/

An interview with the developer of DXVK, part of what makes Valve's Steam Play tick

An interview with Philip Rebohle, the creator of DXVK that's used in Valve's Proton.

GamingOnLinux

@SnoopJ

Yeah, sorry to disapoint.

I've been a server room Linux user for decades, but all my attempts to switch my desktop have failed. I'm not a huge gamer either so I usually get the news after they are pretty cold.

I beat the Ender Dragon for the first time last Christmas.

I'm currently playing Dragon Warrior IV on the NES, not with an emulator.

I do kind of live in a cave.

@axnxcamr no disappointment, I'm just happy to share the very good news and regret not doing so sooner!

Gaming on Linux is absolutely having a moment, and combined with the alarmingly rapid fall of Windows, things are getting kind of weird in a good way.

@axnxcamr @misty @SnoopJ ah, the "available games" is basically just games that either have native Linux ports or are officially SteamOS verified or something like that, I just enabled Proton for my entire library in the settings cause there are a lot more games that work despite not being officially verified than games that don't work at all (most of those are multiplayer games with anticheat)
@misty Love how Linux has become a viable gaming option so I can finally just dump windows totally.
@misty a shame that my favorite game is r6 siege :c

@misty

s/strange/glorious/

@misty as my music gear has gotten older, I'm finding more and more doing audio work in Linux is better than Windows, because Windows broke drivers and Linux never has. So, Linux supports a LOT more hardware, if you consider old stuff. (This is true of old GPUs, USB devices, printers, scanners, etc. as well. But, audio is just where I actually care whether some cool old thing I have still works or not.)
@swelljoe @misty Yep. I tend to keep peripherals for a loooong time. Under Linux they keep on working. Under Windows, you have to hope you can find a driver when the next Windows version is forced on you.
@misty mod support. I can’t imagine playing Skyrim with original inventory system.
@StaleCricket70 @misty what do you mean?
@hazelnot @misty SkyUI a mod for Skyrim puts everything into tables, color coded, tabs.

I haven’t done reading into if mods work in Skyrim on Linux. But given how finicky getting mods to work in the first place….
@misty
My MS laptop is sitting somewhere collecting dust. My SteamDeck has become my daily driver. Games and (lebre)office, who knew such a union could exist?

@misty

I think the only real areas where that isn't true are competitive games with kernel level anti-cheats.

But also those games and the gamers that play them kinda suck, so... Good?

@misty

It was inevitable. I've used Linux on my laptop for ten years, and seen it get closer and closer to game-ability all this time. Paying for an OS? Being forced to be injected with bloated updates? These issues haven't affected me again, ever.

It's not absurd, because open-source had been working towards replacing corporate, in ALL aspects, since it's inception.

Since coders woke up to discover their code was being monetized, then weaponized, then monopolized against their creators.

This was inevitable. Enjoy your gaming.😏

@misty And yet, if Apple would support Vulkan and OpenGL....
@misty
I did and literally every game works. I'm fiddling with a bit of stutter as gramerate limiting seems a bit underdeveloped and my native refresh rate is beyond insane. All good, though.

@misty recently, l was setting up a new laptop, and ended up with fedora linux (and a windows vm), just to not deal with missing device drivers. I expected literally opposite, but no

(Working Autocad & Revit was a must, and they're still too much for Wine/Proton)

@misty Well I am considering switching from Linux to Windows so I'm not constantly distracted by all these games. Productivity pro move!
@despens The ultimate productivity hack!
@misty I can recommend Linux Mint Debian Edition.
@misty
Valve and Microsoft, arguably.
@misty I’ve been using it on my desktop PC for almost a year now and it is wild how Wine/Proton seems to just have better compatibility with some older Windows games than Windows 11 did (which I assume is even worse now on that front)
@misty It keeps blowing my mind repeatedly just how well Linux runs Windows games these days, like, if a game isn't competitive or brand new, I don't even check the compatibility anymore.
@misty im literallt waiting for ubuntu to support sound on my asus rog zephyrus g16 properly. everything else works
@misty Since then MS was about distraction and Linux in education. This distinction crumbles down in leisure computing nowadays. Well done Valve, well done.
@misty ever since I got a SteamDeck I've hoped they'd make a laptop, a phone…

@misty Peripheral support is good but still iffy around the edges. Say, if you're a trans girl who wants to deepen the Mechsploitation-shaped hole in her brain by playing Mech games with a HOTAS setup.

(Purely hypothetical, I don't assure you)

@misty @phildini strange and wonderful