Larry GarfieldI may regret this at some point, but I felt the need to put down in writing how I feel about this moment in the tech industry.
It is not kind. You may well be insulted by it. If you are... then you really should question yourself.
William Whitlow@Crell Thank you for quantifying the various aspects that it takes to keep AI running. It’s one of those details that is becoming increasingly apparent, but difficult to grasp the scope.
Would you care to elaborate on the “This is how societies die.” comment? Is that primarily in the sense of social apathy? In the lack of respect for others/foresight over long term consequences? The disruptive tactics of numerous tech companies that have eliminated many norms? Or something else?
@wwhitlow All of the above.
Major empires aren't destroyed from without, but by their own greed, infighting, and incompetence.
In this case, the "it is what it is" attitude is unworthy of someone in a democracy. That's how the billionaires and pedo-fascists were able to take over.
Then add short-sightedness about global warming for the last 50 years, and AI is just the latest part of it. That will kill us all. "It is what it is."
Derick Rethans@Crell @wwhitlow I think the societal aspect goes further than that. Because we are ending up not teaching anything person to person any more.
Take StackOverflow. Although there were often simple questions (and answers) with little thought, there was also a large amount of great questions, with equally great answers — so detailed that you learned the actual basics. This is now gone due to AI.
LLMs have only learned old content from there, anything newly created projects won't even be taught.
SeanBurlington 🌈 🕊️@derickr @Crell @wwhitlow I hear a lot of people stating that AI will get better with time - I see no evidence for this
It has run out of data to consume - data that it needs in order to improve
It has poisoned the well of knowledge
and since it is currently making massive financial losses - we cannot evaluate future pricing
Dagnabbit, Pascaline! 💥And since it is adding to the well of knowledge itself, using old knowledge, this additional information is a rehash of what is already there. It's like the 'websites' written by Ai, after which Ai uses them to add to its 'knowledge'. The worst is that these get more traction and search results. But they feel like voids echoing one another, not adding anything new, except if they find new human input to milk and bleed.
Wilfried Klaebe"AI" is pissing into the well of knowledge we all are trying to drink from.
Dan Schnaui was thinking about this, and I'm not sure AI has consumed all the data. It's consumed all the *public* data. But with companies wiring up their private codebases to LLMs, there's lots and lots more data to feed from.