I know this is anathema to a lot of people on here, but I really wish there was a real search of some kind. I’m looking for people posting about niche stuff and it’s too damn hard!

If you post about train control, especially CBTC, hi.

How do folks find people on here?
@xferok It's a slow process, eh? I find it frustrating too. So far the way I have found the most people is to post about a topic and use hashtags, and scope out the folks who interact
@beandreams are hashtags global? Or limited to a degree or two out on the graph?

@xferok As usual, there are baffling federation rules about it 🙄

When people follow or search for hashtags, they can find anything their server has "noticed". So hashtags make your posts visible to more people, but it is hard to actually predict or understand how much.

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@xferok it’s definitely more difficult than centralized places.
When I was first here trying to find people and topics I would go onto the “live feeds” of other servers and look for hashtags.

Like going here:

https://mastodon.social/search?q=Train

@chris @xferok

OMFG I can't even find my reply to that one @Mastodon post regarding them planning to remove the Live/Federated feeds from public view on mastodon.social.

Mastodon search needs to be fixed fr. I'm getting the impression that they refuse to fix it because they don't know how to do so in a way that avoids provoking the privacy concerns of users who prefer their posts to not be indexed by Mastodon search and search engines.

@untilted @xferok @Mastodon
Ya I was thinking of that when I wrote that too. :)
@xferok I tend to follow hashtags for topics I'm interested in, which has resulted in a lot of good follows.
@xferok follow folk and hashtags that seem interesting
@xferok I don't have an answer for you, but fwiw: I saw this because someone I follow boosted it. But, not someone I think of as a train-friend! And yet down below in the replies it looks like a bunch of train friends have already been tagged. So, while imperfect, it all sort of works out in the end? Sometimes? Eventually?
@xferok there is full text search but on a small server your admin might’ve not turned it on. It costs more to host. It’s also annoyingly opt in. The poster has to go into settings and enable a let people search my posts checkbox.

@xferok

lots and lots of hashtags

then if you find somebody interesting you look at the people under their following/followers and hopefully find more people

@xferok I'm going to poke @q @hopla @rail and @jon as people interesting in trains, in various ways.

I don't think I've seen any post about "CBTC" but there's definitely some expertise around trains in there.

@Sobex @xferok @hopla @rail @jon I know a non zero amount of random facts about CBTC/ERTMS, but by no means an expert
@q Sorry but I know sod all about CBTC. I know a bit more about ETCS! @Sobex @xferok @hopla @rail

@jon @q @xferok @hopla @rail

What does CBTC stand for, and what does it refer to, btw ? (Sounds like it is signalling related, but I can't place it)

@Sobex @q @xferok @hopla @rail Communications-based train control. But mostly used for metros. And despite the rather generic name it is a standard. And the standard does have *some* things in common with how ETCS works.
@jon @Sobex @xferok @hopla @rail but there are a few different CBTCs which are ofc not interoperable
@Sobex @q @xferok @hopla @rail But you'd need to find someone who works on metro rail to really get into the detail of it, and city rail transport is not my specialism at all. Hence why I know no more than what CBTC is.
@Sobex @jon @q @hopla @rail communications based train control. It’s a train control regime in which trains are able to locate themselves along the right of way and communicate that to a central system, which in turn issues permission to move up to a specified point
@xferok @jon @q @hopla @rail Is "PTC", positive train control, in the US used to designate CBTC systems ?
@Sobex @jon @q @hopla @rail CBTC is a form of PTC, but they’re not coterminous. The PATH, a metro that is technically a mainline, has had its CBTC system certified as meeting its PTC requirement, for example, but really any system that can vitally stop a train upon violation of a signal or movement authority is positive train control.
The trip arms in the NYC (and other) subways can be considered a form of positive train control, because they will stop a train that violates its movement authority (ie passes a red signal)
Generally speaking, though, in the US, PTC refers to I-ETMS or ACSES, which are both systems that will stop a train if it overruns a red signal and enforce civil speeds, though they do so in very different ways.
@xferok @jon @q @hopla @rail Uhhh, so any reasonable signalling system is a PTC, and a signlling system that doesn't meet PTC seems rather unsafe, right ?

@Sobex @xferok @jon @hopla @rail correct

the US didn't have this until recently

@q @xferok @jon @hopla @rail
The US has a terrible and unsafe rail infrastructure 😱 <pretends to be shocked>  .

What about Canada, surely they aren't using such unsafe and antiquated systems ?

@Sobex @xferok @jon @hopla @rail Canada is basically an extension of the US rail network, Mexico even more so
@q @xferok @jon @hopla @rail Has't Mexico opened recent and modern lines recently though ?
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@Sobex @q @jon @hopla @rail Canada has no form of PTC on its mainlines nor does it have a framework to eventually require it, iirc. It’s kind of nuts.
@Sobex @q @jon @hopla @rail it depends on how you’re looking at it, but the US mainline rail network beats Canada in nearly all respects. It’s better regulated, used more efficiently, generally higher capacity, and operated better. Canada’s rail network reflects its highly extractive economy, and is good at little more than getting unit goods to port.
@xferok @Sobex @q @jon @hopla @rail Maybe @paige or @reece can tell me where to find an essay or a video about railway signalling in Canada. If the train driver runs a red light, does the train stop automatically?
@eriksandblom @xferok @Sobex @q @jon @hopla @rail @paige on main lines? No. Which is a huge problem! This will be fixed if Go transit installs etcs at least for its territory and it strains
@reece @eriksandblom @Sobex @q @jon @hopla @rail @paige though any unequipped train still poses a threat and essentially makes the system unable to vitally assure safety
@reece @eriksandblom @Sobex @q @jon @hopla @rail @paige any system without positive stop assurance is only as safe as human operators are
@reece @eriksandblom @Sobex @q @jon @hopla @rail @paige following an unequipped train is fine, but it becomes difficult to assure the safety of trains potentially in its path. Obviously still better to have PTC on some than none, but partial doesn’t fully reduce risk!
@Sobex @jon @q @hopla @rail more or less. If the system can stop a train who has violated its movement authority, it is a form of positive train control. This includes something like trip stops, PZB magnets, cab signals, etc. On (generally) western mainlines in the US, engineers were relied upon to observe and heed signals. Now, I-ETMS, which is GPS based, has been rolled out on nearly all of the national rail network and can enforce those signals (plus other safety stuff, like speed).

@Sobex @xferok @jon @q @hopla @rail Well, Poland doesn't, we (well, the vast majority of us) live, thanks to the dedication of signallers, train drivers, and the introduction of the venerable Radio-Stop system, which allows remotely stopping all trains in the area by playing a specific repeating tone on the train radio with the push of a button.
This is actually going to be sort of an issue in the coming years as we've finally started rolling out digital train communication over GSM-R which apparently does not have that function (don't see any reason why it couldn't, but I guess it was decided ETCS would be responsible for controlling the brakes) while ETCS will be a longer time coming on many of these lines

(Also, AFAIK PTC is an exclusively North American term, ATP (Automatic Train Protection) is what is used for systems elsewhere, I think)

@HaTetsu @xferok @jon @q @hopla @rail I concur I've only heard PTC mentioned wrt US railways.
@Sobex @HaTetsu @jon @q @hopla @rail As is often the case in this industry, there are many terms that essentially mean the same thing.
@jon @q well ECTS seems to approach CBTC closer and closer every day!
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@xferok

Hashtags. That is how people find each other here. You can even follow hashtags.

If you see my post because of the hashtags, please check out the OP and connect with them.

#trains
#TrainControl
#CBTC