MicroWaveJan 31

France moves to abolish concept of marital duty to have sex

https://lemmy.world/post/42456311

France moves to abolish concept of marital duty to have sex - Lemmy.World

France is to enshrine in law the end of so-called “conjugal rights” – the notion that marriage means a duty to have sex. A bill approved on Wednesday in the National Assembly adds a clause to the country’s civil code to make clear that “community of living” does not create an “obligation for sexual relations”. The proposed law also makes it impossible to use lack of sexual relations as an argument in fault-based divorce. Though unlikely to have a major impact in the courts, supporters hope the law will help deter marital rape.

Show threadgustofwindJan 31

Only rational civil unions should exist and have whatever legal powers the people involved deem necessary so long as they aren’t against public policy

Marriage should not be a recognized institution and should be relegated to the halls of religious extremists

Show threadJoshuaFalkenJan 31

There are less hyperbolic ways to say marriage shouldn’t carry various legal benefits over civil unions just because it’s more or less become a tradition.

This reads like someone showing up for Christmas dinner with the family and tearing down the decorations because they don’t like how commercialized the holiday has become.

Show threadgustofwindJan 31

It took until 2026 for France to remove the sex requirement of marriage

Don’t pretend it’s some innocent institution

It should be scrapped entirely as a legal mechanism and replaced wherever possible

Show threadJoshuaFalken

I didn’t pretend marriage is universally innocent. I said it’s a tradition just like hanging colourful lights on a tree within a home in December, and that it’s just as aggressive to state everyone be rid of their decorations as that the concept of marriage should be abolished.

I didn’t say I thought you were wrong - I said the initial comment read a bit hot off the stove.

Jan 31 at 5:10pmWeb
Show threadgustofwindJan 31

It’s not just a tradition it’s a tradition that actively creates and informs legal rules anchored to that tradition

Your analogy between the enduring institution of marriage with Christmas lights is simply false

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Show threadDomeGuyJan 31

Your argument seems more against religion (and inferrably monogamy) than it does marriage itself. Especially if “civil union” is your alternative.

I don’t see what the benefit would be to just go through the family law and replace the term “marriage” with “civil union”.

Show threadScoffingLizardJan 31
Health Insurance is a big one.