Tjeerd RoyaardsEuropean autonomy. Cartoon for Dutch newspaper Trouw.
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Ah by that standard nearly all the world is using Linux phones.
Vivaldi uses the oss base of Chrome.
Personally I think people are still missing the point, there is a reason why the browser market is as restricted as it is: DRM.
In practice Microsoft, Apple & Google effectively control who is allowed to publish a mass market compatible browser, by granting or not a DRM module licence (they just need to delay it).
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@yacc143 @anneviv @royaards That's true.
All your mentioned points are valid. But imagine google would own 'Linux', would you build on that and say your product helps to get away from big tech?
I understand that it's a journey and for most people it's hard to get out of the big tech comfort zone. My goal is not to badmouth someone's work, who is trying to make a difference. Nevertheless, I don't think it's right to conceal the dependencies that come with it. This means that chromium browsers will never work without Google. Development would also probably never continue without Google. Ultimately, a chromium browser can only ever be an intermediate step at best.
All your mentioned points are valid. But imagine google would own 'Linux', would you build on that and say your product helps to get away from big tech?
I understand that it's a journey and for most people it's hard to get out of the big tech comfort zone. My goal is not to badmouth someone's work, who is trying to make a difference. Nevertheless, I don't think it's right to conceal the dependencies that come with it. This means that chromium browsers will never work without Google. Development would also probably never continue without Google. Ultimately, a chromium browser can only ever be an intermediate step at best.
@sinandlerd @anneviv @royaards Ah, but that's the point; Google only owns Chromium up to a point.
In the end it's a question of how the US trade envoy will be able to enforce the US idea of "fair trade" aka US tech monopoly, or the EU will manage to enforce their digital tech laws. In that the next couple of years will be interesting, as in the Chinese curse.
Note that how Google manages Chrome is already not DSA/DMA compliant, e.g. the whole enterprise addon ecosystem.
@yacc143 @anneviv @royaards If google stops working on chromium there's no one who will have the ability to compensate for that. It's a matter of manpower and also money. By the way, Vivaldi is also relying on ads and user data.
I hope for the EU as well. But I don't think we have so much time left for the EU to find their courage to stand up for our values.