I know a guy who used to be a conservative, until he went to college. It wasn't "woke professors" that change him to a liberal, it was being in an actual city instead of the small town he grew up in.
Meeting more diverse people made him realize he was fed lies about others while growing up.
So yeah, if you ever wondered why the right wants to shut down education and universities, that's one reason.
He also told me he still reads Fox News, but with a critical eye, and so he can easily counter things his conservative friends (and family) tell him.
I remember him telling me that, and occasionally look at Fox News to see how they see things.
Here's an interesting one full of scary buzzwords like "Socialism" and "Communists".
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr
@rasterweb I feel like an extreme outlier on mastodon. grew up in a suburban religious household and went to college at big state school. My roommates told me I wasn't conservative. My Dad in his final years liked Trump, and was a bit of an us vs them, good vs bad person.
I don't think my views have changed much. Liberals don't know what conservatives hear and vs versa. I tried listening to conservative media, but they are so low brow, wow the amount of divisiveness! I had to move to podcasts.
Disagree, liberals do indeed know what conservatives hear and what they say.
Eh, last time I tried to talk to them I was "just showing off how educated and politically correct" I was, so -- I think they hear what liberals say and dismiss it as being liberal rather than acknowledge it
@darwinwoodka @rasterweb I can't speak for you, who I infer is a liberal, or for the conservative you were talking to, but I find most people on both sides are living in some degree of a bubble, and are hearing the boom of an echo chamber.
Your interaction sounds typical. Ad hominem arguments, etc. But I hear it from both sides regularly.
I find a lot of the same words used on both sides are defined differently, and it is very easy for people to be talking straight past each other.
@darwinwoodka @rasterweb I haven't read this, but coincidentally, this just came through my feed:
@darwinwoodka @poleguy @rasterweb
There is this AllSides news site, founded by a rightwinger, a centrist, and a liberal, which explicitly shows how a variety of news sites cover the same topic. But it seems to me that their readership must largely consist of people who aren't happily high on their own confirmation bias loops. (Also, their "left" category includes CNN and The Guardian, which shows the founders' unawareness or uncaring-ness of Overton Window dynamics.) https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news
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