Paper is the new privacy measure.

https://discuss.online/post/34508278

Gestapo/Stasi vibes all over.
During Gestapo and Stasi times most informants did their best to remain anonymous because no one likes snitches. Openly following someone and bragging about it is sociopathic even by nazi and Stalinist standards.
Oh, they just didn’t realize that they are easy targets themselves. Early days are always like this.
Stasi did not execute people in broad daylight. Comparing the Stasi (intelligence services of Socialist Germany) to the Gestapo (agency instrumental to millions of exterminations in genocide) is insulting.
Nobody cares if Stasi are whingy about imperfect allusions. 🖕🏽 Both groups deserve lead sentences, full stop.
Everything you know about Stasi comes from Hollywood, go read a book
You’re reading the wrong books, nazi. 🖕🏽
Communism defeated nazism and saved tens of millions of lives from Nazi extermination in Europe. Again, open a book for once in your life
Eh. I forgot about them, and assumed based on context here alone. My bad. You’re still being a dick, regardless. 😏
I was a dick because you flipped me a finger, but sure, thanks for taking it back
Ironically trigger happy
both are a bad comparison for ICE, which is much more like the SA: low-level thugs used to intimidate the opposition and steal elections, to be discarded and replaced the moment they’re no longer needed
You mean KKK, Slaver, Jan 6th Protester, etc… The threat isn’t foreign, and its been here in America since before Nazis existed.
Nah, AmeriKKKa vibes.
Weak little fucking cowards hiding behind the state to feel empowered for their gold stars. Little rat class traitors like that deserve open hostility every second of their lives.
short lives*
I think I might’ve seen this somewhere. Hope you got this over there. Greetings from Germany.
Yeah, we’ve “got this” like the clap, and it’s just as contagious. gestures to Italy, UK, China, Russia, etc.
So important to document all these tactics and counter-tactics. It will also come to parts of Europe soon. Sweden has under the current government implemented prisons for children and forced government employees to report suspected undocumented children and families. And the far-right has not even officially been included in the government yet. We probably have to prepare here too.

In France we have people on far-right billionaire-funded yet widely popular TV channel advocating for the adoption of ICE tactics.

We’ve also already got special administrative prisons with inhumane conditions for undocumented migrants for a while. Likewise, on paper, the far-right has never participated in any government since 1945.

Let’s not forget that the EU has delegated arbitrary arrest and violent policing of migrants to other states for quite a while now.

Dark times ahead, we need to fight now, but also prepare for a worsening of the situation.

For the ones that get into mediterranian sea, they have to face frontex and spoiler: they are not specialized in ship rescue

Yes, and don’t forget a bunch of EU countries just signed up with Palantir too. So it’s definitely coming to Europe. I think they’re trying to separate us Americans that disagree with this from the rest of the world so we have no one.

This is a global class war. Of course we’re going to pick out the big target. If they succeed in isolating us the rest of the western world is easy pickings.

Oh yea, Palantir. Reminds me that Thiel will be doing a conference in Paris soon 🤮.
Sweden. I didn’t have that on my 2025 bingo card.

Fascism is running rampant through most Western styled democracies all over the globe. It’s a byproduct of late stage capitalism, instead of addressing the root problem that is causing wealth inequality, fascist and their wealthy backers are blaming everything on scapegoats.

The US is just the bellwether, but we’ve seen a very prominent rise in far right parties surging in even socdem countries.

Well put. We are just as immune as the USA thought they were
It’s a different disease though. There is no political option that isn’t for migration crackdowns, enprisoning children and removing safeguards against repression and surveillance. But as opposed to the Trump regime, neither side of Swedish politics are trying to abolish the other or is actively trying to break down the constitutional order.
Yet. There is no one trying to break down the constitutional order yet. Despite all we’re seeing, despite Åkesson having made warm remarks about Trump for years, despite being hostile towards the media, despite never-ending racist remarks from his party, despite record unemployment, he is currently enjoying the highest voter confidence of any party leader. If the trend continues, the same disease will end up in Sweden as well sooner or later.
what? the Left party certainly isn’t for stricter migration politics, and they’re the largest small party!
If you are Swedish you will remember the Green Party spokesperson Åsa Romson crying as her government announced a crackdown on migrants. Left wing leader Nooshi Dadgostar would (will?) have done the same in Romson’s situation, albeit, hopefully, without crying. That’s just the way it is when you’re a minority partner in a government led by a party that copies all their policies on crime and migration from the far right.
And the Swedish political shit is floating over to Finland too.
I’d say we’re far from close in Sweden. The uptick in SD voters is very concerning, and the rest of the right is pretty trash as well. But it’s at least pretty likely the left gets the win this year, so let’s hope they do and start cleaning up the mess the right has created…

i’m infinitely more worried about M and S than i am about SD, as SD seems to be busy destroying themselves through concentrated incompetence.

M are actually competent and know how to ease in fascism by making it look perfectly normal, and i wouldn’t be surprised if S ends up turning into SS without even realizing it themselves…

as SD seems to be busy destroying themselves through concentrated incompetence

And yet they seem to increase in polls. It feels like their voters are as immune to all their shit as the republican voters are…

i wouldn’t be surprised if S ends up turning into SS without even realizing it themselves…

I’m not seeing this happening any time soon, I’m more worries about M following the SD playbook to try to appease their voters. The only good thing about this whole mess is that my dad and brother, that are both very much with M, are both considering voting S this year. And my dad has even been in city council (? kommunfullmäktige) for M. That might be an indication that M is going to lose quite a few voters this year.

Wow this is the first I’ve heard of Sweden falling so badly . . .
Has been for a while now. Kinda sad considering it used to be considered a bastion of modern society.

It will also come to parts of Europe soon.

In 10 years we’ll officially know the CIA has been funding far-right groups in the EU.

Do you or anybody know if there is a good place to find tactics currently being battle tested and updated from Minnesota and other places? I feel like the HK protests also had lots of interesting findings. It might be useful for SUTR and other UK anti-facist groups
There’s still retarded magas in MN? wtf
There’s still ableism in Lemmy? wtf
Sigh… We understand what your getting at, but choose a different word… Be better.
Start delivering grocceries to people ICE isn’t targeting. Flood the streets with deliveries so its impossible for them to track everyone doing it.
I like it. Walk groceries down the street to your 30yo kid. Grandmas house. Or just shop each others lists. Make it so busy they can’t keep up.
Maybe, we should flood the virtual streets as well? I’m sure the tech bros are providing support here. Flood these idiots with AI bullshit too. Make it unreliable to use such tactics.
Be careful with that. Who knows if the ICE is not going to kick doors at night and shoot someone randomly. If you have time, take them on hours long trips…

Delivering food to neighbours but need to write the address down?

Sounds a bit far-fetched, no?

If we’re talking about next-door neighbors yes, sure.

I reckon it means people living in the same neighborhood as you, which in big cities can be quite large.

I had to look and we’re all commenting on a bloody Threads comment.

I came to Lemmy to escape this kinda crap.

Yes absolutely everything ! /s
Thankfully people are organizing over there. To help people in need. Neighbors in an ideological sense.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to imply. What conspiracy do you think is happening here?
That the Threads comments we are commenting on aren’t real.
To what benefit?
Does there need to be a reason for someone to lie?
In such an intricate and coordinated manner? Yes.
Well if you look up “vintageweave” on Threads, they’re based in “Los Angeles, CA 90048” so I doubt they aren’t making up bullshit for likes.
I actually looked up edible paper online some years back and it is a thing. Might be messy though.
Or just stop using Facebook Messenger for a private, encrypted messenger app.