Should citizens of your country that live elsewhere have the right to vote?

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Yes
64.2%
Yes, but...
17.5%
No, but...
5%
No
13.2%
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@evan I would say no.

My rationale: Who am I as a resident and citizen of another country to decide what the residents of my other citizenship country wish/want. I don’t pay taxes there, I don’t participate in their active life, etc. For all intents and purposes, they are foreigners

@EdwinG @evan That's such an Anglo thing to associate taxes and voting rights. Very "democratic" idea. So people who are too poor to pay taxes, shouldn't have the right to vote either? Only landowners like in the good olden days? Probably white and male too, right?

@DavidBHimself That is not my point 🤦‍♂️

What I’m saying… who am I to impose my political preferences as a citizen of country A to people in country B that I don’t live with and don’t know their current needs‽

Let’s say… the hypothetical where I live, we decide to that mastering multiple languages (A and B) is a requirement to get your secondary education diploma. But in country B, such a suggestion would be seen as an attack against said country.

It’s just hard to find non-tax examples

@evan

@EdwinG
And yet, you did mention taxes. Something that would never cross my mind when talking about voting.

Also, you've never lived in another country, have you?

Who are you to impose your political preference? You are a citizen of your own country, just like every other citizen of your own country "impose" their political preference when it's election time.

(and sorry, I don't understand your countries A and B example, it's not about country A and B, it's about country A only)

@evan

@DavidBHimself I have lived in another country. I even held a triple citizenship for a certain time. I didn’t vote in elections for regions I was not residing in.

The question is literally: Should people that lived in your country (A) but moved away to another country (B) be still allowed to vote in your country (A)?

@evan

@EdwinG
I do understand the question, it's your example with A and B that didn't make much sense (The situation in country B is irrelevant to the question).

You do understand that people with multiple nationalities are a special case, right?

The question is about emigrants. If you have dual citizenship you're not an emigrant or an immigrant.

@evan

@DavidBHimself The situation in country B is indeed not relevant (resident, citizen), but it is relevant that they are not living in country A because they live in B.

In other words, should A’s not residing citizens be allowed to vote in A? And I’m saying, no.

@evan

@EdwinG So, you're basically saying that I and many other people should lose their rights to vote?
To lose my most basic right as a citizen because I happen to not live on a piece of soil, but on another one?

Quite a strange way to see democracy, indeed. (see where my "landowner" reference is coming from)

@evan

@DavidBHimself I’m suggesting that you should be able to vote where you live.

@evan

@EdwinG Well, you're not in most cases.

@evan

@DavidBHimself I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

And yes, I did lose my right to vote when I moved a couple of times, even as a resident+citizen of said location. That’s how our imperfect electoral system works. 😥

@evan

@EdwinG Still, I'm curious about what country made you lose your voting rights without stripping you of your citizenship.

@DavidBHimself It's at the subnational level in Québec, Canada.

At the municipal level, there's a deadline to register on the list of electors - most on it. I moved between that deadline and election day. You cannot register on election day.

Knowing what I know today, I insist that people check that they're registered by the deadline :)
There's space for improvement.

https://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/en/vote/can-you-vote/#municipal

Can you vote?

To vote in an election or referendum, you must meet certain conditions. For instance, your name must be entered on the list of electors.

Élections Québec
@EdwinG So, this has nothing to do with changing countries.

@DavidBHimself Yeah, that specifically wasn't countries... I still couldn't vote for the people that would represent me.

It's my understanding that it used to be the case that Canadians would lose their national voting rights if they live abroad for over 5 years:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170719195520/http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=reg/etr&document=index&lang=e

That is no longer the case:
https://elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=reg/etr&document=index&lang=e#etr3

Elections Canada Online | Registration and Voting Processes for Canadians Who Live Abroad

Registration and Voting Processes for Canadians Who Live Abroad