VeeJan 24

"I think the majority of Americans (including left-wing voters) have not fully grasped the fact that our standing in the world will not recover in our lifetimes.
Even if we elected two full-term Democrats in a row, it wouldn't change the perception of the rest of the world. Because the rest of the world has discovered we do not have a system that prevents our nation from pivoting 180º toward authoritarianism when a madman is elected."

- Tony Rush

Show threadSpeed demon 🇪🇺 🇳🇴🇺🇦🇵🇸
@VeroniqueB99 Collective memory lasts maybe 20 years, but firewalls will be put in place, there will be institional barriers long after we're all dead.
Jan 24 at 9:49pmWeb
Show threadVeeJan 24
@hakona oh yeah... and then some. Ask the Germans.
Show threadAlex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKJan 25
@VeroniqueB99 @hakona people in my country were/are still suspicious of the Germans decades after WW2, and this residual mistrust even helped lead to the misguided and counterproductive Brexit (as the EU was still irrationally viewed as a "German project")
Show threadSpeed demon 🇪🇺 🇳🇴🇺🇦🇵🇸Jan 25
@vfrmedia I went to school near Colchester (6 years old) in 1969/70 . We used to play spitfires vs messerschmidts. @VeroniqueB99
Show threadSpeed demon 🇪🇺 🇳🇴🇺🇦🇵🇸Jan 25
@vfrmedia Back home in Norway, 1970, it was cowboys and indians.
@VeroniqueB99
Show threadAlex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKJan 25

@hakona @VeroniqueB99

we only stopped fighting WW2 in our heads around 1987-1989..

Show threadVeeJan 25
@vfrmedia @hakona 👍
Show threadArnd LayerJan 25

@VeroniqueB99
And - being a German myself - Nazi Germany totally lost the war and had to be rebuilt which should have helped building trust even though way too many nazis stayed in powerful positions.

I can’t imagine the US going through anything remotely as drastic.

Also, it’s not only the system that allowed this to happen. It’s also the voters that elected him. Those also aren’t going to go away. To me this is the biggest obstacle to rebuilding trust.

@hakona

Show threadNu ModularJan 24

@hakona OTOH, how long has the overextended duopoly persisted?.. with no middle party?

Worse, more polls are showing less dem/rep party lines, than 'independent'. Yet how much weight does this neutered middle carry?

The fossil fuels industry corrupted the US, decades ago. The fact that most lay sole blame on crony politicians - who write policy for said corrupt industry - is proof positive that educational systems need a major evolution.

Show threadSpeed demon 🇪🇺 🇳🇴🇺🇦🇵🇸Jan 24
@numodular The duopoly can only be ended by change in rules. A *long* process. Start with attainable goals, like some kind of ranked choice. Strategy to get there : mobilise for primaries,