ELI5 How is this legal? Doesn't the constitution give us the right to tell them piss off?

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ELI5 How is this legal? Doesn't the constitution give us the right to tell them piss off? - Lemmy.World

Lemmy

You can tell them to piss off but they can beat and/or kill you and get away with it so words arent really gonna have much stopping power in this case.

We live in a society where might = right. If you have the firepower or other means to stop them from entering your private space then you have the right to do so. 

You don’t really have the right to shoot anybody. (Depends on the state) But then you’d be accused of shooting a federal officer. Do you realy want that?

The mere threat of returned violence seems to work in dissuading the ICE agents from trying anything. Hence them making themselves scarce a few days ago when they saw a gentleman open carrying a semi-automatic (though unloaded) rifle.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRcr2agoOlM

VIRAL MOMENT: Minneapolis RESIDENT ARM himself to DEFEND their neighborhood AGAINST ICE

YouTube
Carrying it unloaded is stupid. They won’t wait to see if you have ammo before lighting you up. Why leave yourself actually defenseless?

He’s not doing whatever he can to not get murdered. He’s doing whatever he can to expose ICE’s hypocrisy and prove that they are the lawless murderers.

By not loading his weapon he has made it clear that there is no circumstance in which he would take another’s life. Not even to defend his own.

Is he putting himself at grave risk? Yes. Absolutely.

Is there a way to accomplish the same thing without risk? No.

That man is a definitional hero.

Meh, a hero needs to be inarguably good at their intended goal. Anyone who doesn’t already agree with him is going to call him a dumbass, and rightfully so.

Do not appear to be a threat while not actually being a threat. Period. It’s almost as bad as being in danger while having zero defense.

You wouldn’t celebrate someone taking a walk in the woods with an empty bear mace can. This guy is doing the same thing: Going in to danger against wild animals with no actual defense.

Bears are not monsters, and there are much better ways of mitigating their threat. ICE and Donald cannot be mitigated.
This is a question of what happens during an attack. Not who is more likely to attack. For a bear, bear mace is an excellent choice. For ICE, of you already have a fucking gun, it being loaded is a first fucking step.

is a first fucking step to that gun being useful at all.

Except you are not talking about the use he had in mind for the gun. There can be more than one use for a thing. As an example, here’s a very useful car:

salvage yard sign

Except that sign isn’t sitting on a road. Walking around an area where bullets might fly with an empty gun is equivalent to sitting on the road with a car out of gas.

Again: Useless.