The Clicks Communicator stumbled by marketing itself as a "second phone". It has everything I want out of a "real" phone, no AI push, and it's small. I'm going to try it as my next (only) phone.

https://thelemmy.club/post/42901975

Too bad it will not work in Canada for some carrier like Rogers who VoLTE blacklist phones they don’t sell…

Also what is the target price of this phone?

Not the phone’s problem
Why the hell would I want a “second phone”? I don’t like my first phone. I want a phone that I don’t hate, not a second phone to add to my misery.
Not a clue. Wouldn’t want that either. That’s why I want it as my only phone…
RIM should blow everyone’s mind and release a new QWERTY BlackBerry. The market would lose their shit.
RIM no longer own BlackBerry. The Clicks Communicator has some of the blackberry team on it’s team.
I think the only compromise is that it doesn’t have a flagship camera and a smaller screen which is a given for the keyboard. Not sure how the IP rating will be, though. But it looks really promising as a phone that would suit the majority of people who aren’t trying to use their phone as a gaming console

The camera and the IP rating are my hangups. IP might just be complacency, but I like not having to worry about rain or where to put the phone while paddleboarding or whatever.

Camera… I might be okay with a dedicated one of some kind. I have an old DSLR, but it’s too big to carry everywhere. Which means I have to purposefully go on a ‘photo trip’. Could of course get a decent pocket digital camera and the price of the Communicator + camera will probably be at on par with a new flagship phone.

Not looking to reserve but will probably have to think more about it once it’s out.

The best camera is the one you have on you the most
Agreed, just, that camera might as well be as capable as possible.
Just needs the right software honestly
Yeah. Praying for the camera to be good enough.
I might be in the minority here but I will not use a phone that I can’t strip Google Play and other Google services out of, so it would need support from something like Lineage, Graphene, e, Linux, etc before I would consider it.
I mean they said the bootloader is unlockable so at least being able to disable Google services should be possible. We’ll see how community support goes.
If it’s flashable and the community support is good enough then this might be my next device. Will have to check on it once the community drops support for my ancient secondhand phone. XD
I don’t get the keyboard appeal… Not since swiping became a thing. Sure, back in 2005 it was awesome, but what year is it?
I’d rather have T9 than swiping. T9 actually worked.

8gig of RAM is a bit low

Manufacturers are going to ship laptops with 8gb ram in 2026!!

My smart phone has 6GB of RAM. I’ve managed.

Ram Good God! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing unless your cloud computing.

James Brown’s zombie, probably.

It will be rubbish but the problem is everyone’s doing it so there’s no options other than forking out half your mortgage to Apple for high spec MacBook.
I just want actual buttons like this thing has. If I can just get a keyboard that attaches to the phone without making it unwieldy, that would be sick.
Anyone got a a link to the unlockable bootloader confirmation?
If that’s confirmed, its a big deal - to me at least though I’d also want some comments or info from clicks about other OSs running on the device?
Best I could find was a reddit AMA from the cofounders of the company, who say in one of the replies that you can request a code to unlock the bootloader. (Ctrl + F bootloader should show it up.)
We’re the cofounders of Clicks — we have revealed two new products the Clicks Power Keyboard & the Clicks Communicator. Ask Us Anything! - r/ClicksKeyboard

View on Redlib, an alternative private front-end to Reddit.

I agree, I would totally but it as a main phone. Especially if it gets Lineage OS!

But last year I already bought F(x)tec Pro 1X, which is also a great keyboard phone and I usually don’t update phones too often 🙂

Looks cool. Did you consider the Planet Computers’ offerings?
Yep! But I wanted something with official Lineage support, so I went with F(x)tec.
Wow, I kind of hate that I don’t really need a new phone right now. And just bought a new GPU. This looks awesome.
If I have the money I would definitely get it just to try it out. I am going to get the keyboard though.

$499 no thanks.

$200, Linux. I’ll accept no less. And take your AI crap and you can cram it up your ass.

That’s really aggressive… I said they’re NOT pushing AI with this which is great.

Do you have a recommendation for a full featured Linux device usable as a phone? I’d love that but most seem more expensive and in my country basically none of them can even make a phone call due to not supporting VoLTE so it’s not yet a realistic option.

No, I mean “them”. I agree, its a step forward and I’d get one but not for that price.
Them as in Android manufacturers peddlers. Sorry for not clarifying that. I’m just that angry because they are trying their hardest to get us all to buy new phones but I don’t see a need to do that and not for that price and not for any price if its running AI.

You’re just making numbers up now. there’s no way that a $200 phone is going to be any good. Especially if it’s a niche product like a Linux phone.

Come on you got to be even moderately reasonable

It’s everything I want as an offline bedtime “artcoding” toy. Except for the whole phone bit. And the price.

Communicator will launch on Android 16, with support for up to at least Android 20. We’re committing to a minimum of 4 years of Android version updates and 5 years of security updates.

Idk, Pixels ate supported for like 7 years. So after about 5 years, this phone is toast?

Pixel batteries will degrade to the point of being annoying in under 7 years. 5 years is a pretty good lifespan for a phone.
Just out of interest how long do you keep a phone because I feel like 5 years is pretty much around the time everyone’s looking to get a new phone.

This looks awesome and would consider looking more into it as a real alternative to the current crap, BUT…

  • I will never buy a product that isn’t already produced and ready to ship. Funding campaigns like this are imo most likely scams, very often not serious and if they truly are great, I’d rather wait for V2 or V3 to come, before buying

  • the physical keyboard is great for english users but terrible for people who need to use 2 or 3 languages on their phones.

  • I need android or iPhone to run the local authentication apps for banking, doctors appointments app and even some times payment methods

I suspect that since they already make the keyboard cases, that all they’re planning on doing is making that but a bit smaller, and getting a no-brand Chinese phone manufacturer to make a small stubby square phone that fits in it.

I’m curious what the average Android app will do when presented with that little square aspect ratio. I’ve vaguely dabbled in phone dev before and there’s lots of twatting about to deal with different device sizes (tablets vs phones) and ratios. The proliferation of folding phones may mean there’s decent support for some apps, but I don’t expect that to be universal by any stretch.

This Lemmy comment will be performed in the voice of that fat British guy on Youtube shorts that talks about marketing

You see, the problem with marketing it as a “second phone” is that you’re implying that it’s too shit to be someone’s first phone. Or that you’ve chosen to do something to it that would make it impossible to live with.

I remember in 2018, Verizon started offering a tiny little Android phone branded as a Palm of all things, and that small but vocal minority who insist they want small phones started clamoring for it only to be told that it’s a “companion device” and you still had to have another device active on that line. It cost $350 plus $10 a month on top of another device and plan.

There was essentially no one on earth who wanted a special phone they only used to take to the gym with them, they refused to sell it to people who specifically wanted it, and so it didn’t sell well, to say the least.