Lesley Carhart 
Not me seeing "I sold my Tesla" and "I quit Twitter" posts in January 2026.
Sorry, but no. You had at least a year, generously. We know where you stand.
Botolo@hacks4pancakes This is the extreme position that made the Republicans win in 2024. I bought a Tesla before Musk went crazy and I’m still paying for it. I believe in science and I don’t want to go back to a gas car but I can’t afford buying a new EV. I reduced my use of Twitter, but there are still communities that are very active there and I engage with them. If that means you think I stand to the right or close to the crazies that are governing our country, well, you’re completely wrong.
mer@botolo86 @hacks4pancakes In many countries including Europe viewing CSAM accidentally is illegal and they are posting a lot of it on X. I would encourage you to delete your X account and leave. I get you will leave some communities but those communities are likely reforming on sites that respect the law.
@mer @hacks4pancakes I have been using Twitter from Day 1 and never a single time I was exposed to graphic videos or child abuse/pornography videos. Having said this, I’m using Twitter sporadically at this point. My critique is on this extreme idea that if someone continues to use Twitter today, that means they stand with fascism, nazism, republicans, etc. Just FYI, Obama keeps using Twitter. I doubt he is a nazi or Republican.
derptron@botolo86 @mer @hacks4pancakes I'm with you, but invoking Obama doesn't exactly make your case. It's completely unsurprising that he'd continue to participate on a Nazi platform if it remained popular. How can he pretend to everyone that he has a spine unless he does?
@crazyeddie @mer @hacks4pancakes unfortunately at the end of the day there is nothing like Twitter if you want to keep up with some communities, the news, etc. The two alternatives to Twitter are Threads and Mastodon. Threads has the same moral issues of Twitter (maybe a little bit less), so if no Twitter, then no Threads. Mastodon is just not there yet as size of the community, breadth of topics, and the way it can highlight interesting or urgent topics (because of no algo).
@botolo86 @mer @hacks4pancakes Yeah. Nazis have some cool shit.
We all have our choices to make.
I don't care what you do--got my own sins to deal with. I'm just saying that invoking Obama doesn't help your case.
@crazyeddie @mer @hacks4pancakes that’s fine. My whole argument is just to say that the extreme position of saying “if you own a Tesla and use Twitter you’re a fascist, a nazi, you support the current administration” is the BS that made Trump President in 2024. Unfortunately.
@botolo86 @mer @hacks4pancakes It really does no good to blame those who decided to be more moral than you for the problems caused by so many deciding to go ahead and be immoral because it's convenient.
You lost me. I'm all for the Tesla owners continuing to drive their Teslas. It's the right thing to do. I'm even understanding of those who decide morality is just too hard. I'm not down with those who do that and then blame those who decide to keep their convictions intact.
@crazyeddie @mer @hacks4pancakes It’s anedoctal but many democrats I know did not vote in 2024 and many moderate republicans I know voted for Trump because they were all alienated by extreme positions such as the one I criticized at the beginning of this thread. I’m not blaming Trump on the specific user I criticized, it’s more of an observation on how a party that moves too much to one side may trigger, as a a response, a move to the completely opposite side. It’s a rubber band effect.
@botolo86 @mer @hacks4pancakes Yeah. You're being pretty standard stupid and rather made everyone's point for them. I'm out.