A question for knitters!

Do you push on the tip of your left needle with your right index finger to move stitches into place (for traditional L to R knitting: L index if you knit reverse)?

If so, what is the condition of your index finger? Check all that apply:

#Knitting @knitting

No
56.6%
Yes but my needles are so slippery I don't feel it
22.4%
Yes & I've developed a callus
17.1%
Yes & I can't even use it on a fingerprint scanner
3.9%
Poll ended at .

@knitting I wish there were more options available in surveys here!

The two projects I'm currently working on have rather stubborn resistance, so I've got quite a good callus going.

There's also a split that I have to consciously avoid, otherwise the tip goes deep and OUCH! 😬 😭

My small circular set is bamboo and larger set is wood. Tomorrow I am expecting delivery of metal replacements for my small set where the 2.0 mm split recently. Soon I'll get to see if I can manage smooth, slippery metal without the risk of dropping needles constantly. 😂

@Paws2Spindle I had to retrain myself not to "push" after an ouch exactly like you described!
@terri @Paws2Spindle
Yes did get callus but eventually changed to best metal needles which were smoother. In UK these were Aero brand don't know if they still exist. Tried to train myself to knit 'gently' instead of full speed ahead, but old habits die hard.😉😊
@RHW @terri Old habits indeed! It's usually when I get in the zone and my attention wanders and suddenly the tip of my needle finds that one deep and painful spot, reminding me to slow down and pay attention! 😬
@Paws2Spindle @knitting I picked callus but since I tend to do this with size 0 it’s more of a hole, then I have to move around the part of the finger I use to avoid that spot.
@TindrasGrove Solidarity for team ouch!
@Paws2Spindle @knitting I've switched to a set of copper needles and my hands have never felt better! I tried to use my wooden needles after a year off them and the strain in my hands and fingers was palpable.

@Paws2Spindle I had to pick up my current sock-in-progress to figure out what I do.

My right index finger doesn't really interact with the needle tips, the closest it gets is when I wrap the working yarn. My left index finger does kind of push the right needle down and under the left needle (and through the stitch).

No calluses anywhere that I can tell.

@Paws2Spindle I use metal needles and kind of push with my finger and move the stitches up at the same time with my left hand… it is a pretty smooth motion and thankfully I hardly notice it. @knitting
@Paws2Spindle Yes, but I remember not to when my finger gets sore.
@Paws2Spindle The 62% “No” knitters. I am in awe. How do you do it??
@Pufferfish @Paws2Spindle Continental knitting, probably.
@yazzea @Pufferfish The two recent examples I've observed it in YouTube videos have booth been continental knitters!

@Pufferfish @Paws2Spindle I answered no but tbf I do *occasionally* do the pushing thing (tends to be with one particular brand of sock size needle, and it's my left index not the right).

I do get a callus on the side of my ring finger where a needle is usually resting though, so it's not all sunshine and daisies over here either 😅

@thegiddystitcher @Pufferfish @Paws2Spindle

Yeah, that calluses on the ring fiber is my friend as well.

A few times a year it has grown so thick that I can peel it off, about 2 mm thick.

@Pufferfish Yes! This is my question. Up to 66% now!

I suspect that many knitters do it, and it's so subtle that they don't realize it. For example, I was just watching this video and Norman does a light tap in the same movement as he's grabbing the stitch he just created on the right needle. It's so quick you might miss it, even if you're doing it yourself!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbaoqy7MKWI&t=291s

@Paws2Spindle @Pufferfish I do a similar light tap, but the pressure of taking the old stitch off the left needle is shared between my left thumb pushing the work forward, the right needle lifting it off, and my fingertip. It actually feels more as if my fingertip is there to prevent the whole thing from sliding off, rather than pushing the needle down - there's very little force involved. Sorry it's on IG, but here's a video of me knitting a sock (oh wow, six years ago yesterday) - https://www.instagram.com/p/B7PGJNQpELc/
q. g. r. on Instagram: "@alertedsnake got video of me knitting on an airplane :) Yarn is @whitebirchfiberarts "Nothing Says Screw You Like a Rainbow," which is amazing and saturated and glowy with colour. 🌈🌈🌈 #knittingpirate #knit #knitting #handknit #knittingaddict #knittersofravelry #knittersofinstagram #instaknit #knittersgonnaknit #handknitsocks #socks #knitinpublic #operationsockdrawer #rainbow #ravelry"

20 likes, 2 comments - asterism.23 on January 12, 2020: "@alertedsnake got video of me knitting on an airplane :) Yarn is @whitebirchfiberarts "Nothing Says Screw You Like a Rainbow," which is amazing and saturated and glowy with colour. 🌈🌈🌈 #knittingpirate #knit #knitting #handknit #knittingaddict #knittersofravelry #knittersofinstagram #instaknit #knittersgonnaknit #handknitsocks #socks #knitinpublic #operationsockdrawer #rainbow #ravelry".

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@emery @Pufferfish Wow, you are a knitting machine! So quick and consistent! 😲

Those look like pretty slick DPNs, so probably doesn't take much to move the stitches along -- but just enough friction that they don't slide out when you're not working them!

@Paws2Spindle @Pufferfish They're cheap-o Susan Bates silvalumes - my favourite for sock knitting. I think I have three of these sets :)

https://www.yarnspirations.com/products/susan-bates-silvalume-sock-needle-set

Susan Bates Silvalume Sock Needle Set

@Paws2Spindle interesting: I do a tap with my left finger on my right tip, yet I'm still knitting in the same direction as Norman in this clip. Maybe because I hold the yarn in my other hand, so my right index finger is busy.

Insert needle, wrap yarn, tap to help pull right needle out, pull off left needle without any taps.

@Paws2Spindle Yes, and I have a hole that never really heals... Wish I could have a callus instead.

@cuillere_athee Ouch! So do you just move our push point around and try to remember to not hit that one spot?

That's basically what I've been doing, though I've developed a callous pad around the hole/crack.

@Paws2Spindle yes, I try to avoid it. I know I shouldn't be using sharp pointed needles but I mainly knit socks with short circular metal needles. It heals if I take a 2 week break.
@Paws2Spindle
Sometimes I push it, but I'm trying to unlearn it. (Metal needles, so slippery enough.)
@knitting

@Paws2Spindle

Does that maybe also depend on the different knitting styles there are?

As a German, I think I'm knitting differently. But the nail on my right hand thumb has a nice little half moon decrease, where I'm sliding stitches further onto the right hand needle. Doesn't hurt right now, but the nail starts to hurt at some point, if I'm knitting to much.

Your option sounds very hurtful though.

@knitting

@kathol From the replies, there are a myriad of differences in how everyone knits! I knit "continental" style, so probably similar to you, but even within that category, there seems to be a lot of variation in details of how you hold and work your needles and yarn.

My current method is indeed painful! I hope to find a solution that doesn't involve buying more expensive knitting equipment. 😅

@Paws2Spindle Unfortunately I knit very tight. So I have to push. I also used to wind the yarn two times around my index finger to tighten the yarn and there was no blood any more in my finger tip 🙈@knitting
@motroet That doesn't sound terribly healthy! 😬 Hopefully you take plenty of breaks to allow the blood back in to repair any damage!
@Paws2Spindle nowadays I try to get rid of this old habit 😎

@Paws2Spindle @knitting I need a "sometimes" option.

After someone at a local knitters meeting complained about it, I try to register what I do. Normally I try to have the "leaving" stitches so close to the end that I can just pull them off with the new stitch. And when they are not close enough anymore, I push the needle for two or three before deciding to get them closer to the end again.

Also I use normally quite large needles made of wood. I have the feeling that is less painful.

@Paws2Spindle I am a continental knitter and don't push on the tip of my needles. But once I tried knittingthe other way and pushing the needles helped. I developped a callus in matter if minutes !
@Volibre I'm continental too, so I'm curious what you do to keep the stitches moving down the needle towards the tip. Something has to hold the needle in place while the stitches slide over the surface!
@Paws2Spindle my left needles is pretty much vertical and my left hand keep the loops in check so there is not much room for them to escape.
@Paws2Spindle
I had to knit a couple of stitches to check, but I use the side of my index finger top joint, not the pad of the finger. And I use the nail on the right thumb to help the stitch up & off the left needle. (English thrower.)

@Paws2Spindle @knitting I don’t usually tip-push when knitting as it hurts and I tend to lose stitches far too easily that way!

But … I do get callouses immediately (plural?) from hand sewing and instruments, plus ‘cos Reynauds, fingerprint scanners/touch screens are unreliable anyway.

@Kymberly Oof! Doesn't sound fun, but glad to hear you've not let that keep you down!

I avoid biometric logins as much as possible out of principle, but looking at the state of my finger the other day, I realized it could be problematic if I were highly dependent on it!

@Paws2Spindle @knitting I use my thumb to push. I haven't developed a callus but am trying to break the habit since it causes me some pain after a while.

@Paws2Spindle

Mostly don't feel it, but no calluses. But a few times (or more than a few) I managed to poke the needle between finger and nail.

Ouch.

Or work very thin, very sharp needles I've poked through the skin.

Also ouch