Mastodawn

Sentient Being Jan 12

#Rams #RainbowWool #Wool #BaRamEwe

One out of 12 rams (male sheep) is uninterested in females and prefers the company of males. They are deemed “non-procreative” (worthless to a farmer) and sent to slaughter. So this German farmer, Michael Stücke, rescues the gay rams and forms the company Rainbow Wool, selling wool from the gay sheep. Collaboration between Rainbow Wool and Grindr resulted in a fashion show called I Wool Survive. It featured 36 unique looks by designer Michael Schmidt, made entirely from the wool of the gay sheep, and celebrating queer identity through knitted and crocheted archetypes like Fireman, Sailor, Jock, Daddy and more. Proceeds from sales went to LGBTQA charitable organizations.
In a culture of Stephen Miller and Peter Thiel, be a Michael Stücke or a Michael Schmidt. Make art, make beautiful things, make people laugh, promote inclusivity, promote fabulousness- and find a way to accept whatever you consider “useless sheep.” Maybe instead of killing them, help them become Rainbow Wool. RESIST. And do it in style, if you can.

https://rainbow-wool.com/

Rainbow Wool

Rainbow Wool is the first fashion made from the wool of gay sheep to support queer projects across the globe. #🌈🐏

Rainbow Wool Shop

@Sfwmson As a gay person, wool addict and ram (aries) I 100% support this message!

ChookMother 🇦🇺🦘Jan 11

@Sfwmson Also, you can sponsor a gay sheep!

I saw that!!!

Nicole Parsons Jan 11

Gay sheep aren't "useless".

Anthropologists believe they promoted the survival of the human species.

They help rear their sisters & cousins children.

They bolster defense of the community.

Troubled by a narrative that says "procreative capabilities" justify the right to exist.

It's wrong to believe in the fascists' "economic" rational of "Useless Eaters" or the "scientific" racism of Jim Crow & xenophobia that says DEI is a "burden on society".

The Right to Exist, Exists

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Nicole Parsons Jan 11

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Socially cooperative groups raise children that survive to adulthood

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26089486

https://theconversation.com/how-and-why-did-homosexual-behaviour-evolve-in-humans-and-other-animals-215331

https://www.fatherly.com/health/kids-raised-by-gay-dads-happier-better-behaved

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501

https://gaydadreporter.medium.com/gender-roles-gay-parents-and-the-impact-on-children-a53f5117590e

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/gay-dads-brains-act-like-both-mom-and-dad-1.2655372

Socially cooperative people help their lineages militarily & in protecting sources of resources like food
https://www.neh.gov/article/lovers-and-soldiers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/do-gays-undermine-militar_b_782350

Hegseth's expulsion of LGBTQ weakens national defense

Survival of the species isn't "useless"

The evolutionary puzzle of homosexuality

More and more people believe that gay sexuality is hereditary - but how does this idea fit with natural selection?

BBC News

@Npars01 @Sfwmson It doesn't say "useless," or at least not in the initial description. It says "worthless to the farmer." That's a VERY important distinction. When the term "useless sheep" is later used (in quotes itself, indicating it is the perspective of someone other than the writer), it is clearly rephrasing the earlier statement.

While your information is useful, interesting, and relevant, it is presented as an adversarial perspective vs. the original poster's, when in fact their position on the matter is quite obviously along similar lines to your own.

Context matters.

@Sfwmson as someone who is vegan, I don't support the use of wool. And also, I think it's wonderful that these gay sheep were rescued from slaughter. Let's hope their lives are good

May I ask why wool, which must come off the animal, I think, would be unusable to you?

Genuinely curious, I understand the meat part.

@Sfwmson @webhat they can't consent to any part of their body being used. They are a being which deserves respect, not to be used for human desires. If your hair isn't enough, try asking a fellow human adult if you can use their hair when they don't have a use for it anymore. It's their wool and they've been selectively bred to produce more of it to be more profitable to humans. Stop objectifying other beings.

I was only asking. I don't need attitude today, thanks.

@Sfwmson @webhat ??? You asked why not use them.

It was this part.

"Stop objectifying other beings."

I guess I could toughen up?

@Sfwmson Yes, because you asked why not use them.

@Brian thanks, your explanation was better that I could have done

@Brian @Sfwmson @webhat Do we just throw out the wool shorn from these rescue sheep, though? Given that, as domestic sheep, they need regular shearing to remove excess wool.

@alex @Brian @Sfwmson yes

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Jan 18

am sorry, but this is… illogical.

sheep need to be sheared. they are domesticated and need humans to survive. if you don’t shear them, they could die of infections, or even suffocated under the weight of their own wool.

it never ceases to amaze me how many folks do not seem to know anything about farming.

plus, wool cloth is way better for the environment than the petroleum, oil-based polyesters that replaced it.

you can’t fast fashion wool.

@Brian @Sfwmson @webhat

@blogdiva obviously, sheep need to be sheared. And rescued sheep, like these above would need to be sheared too. Exactly for the reasons you state

And it honestly ceases to amaze me that people think that modern industrial farming is anything like the pretty pictures of farms with sheep running happy and free in pastures. To be sheared sheep are fed through gates to shearers who don't take care of the skin or hair, they have a quota that they need to meet and if a sheep gets hurt they have a paintbrush to tar them with a disinfectant, or a dunked in a disinfectant bath. Sheep get hurt in the process, some badly. Some die during shearing, because shears cut into the animal, which is frowned upon by the farmer. Some drown in the sheep dip. Others die due to infections they develop during the process, which is just spillage

Industrial farming is a practice that leads to a lot of ecological damage, it has very little to do with the farming that most people think they know

If we were to do with dogs and cats, what we do to some of our domesticated farm animals, we would probably be sent to prison

cc: @Brian @Sfwmson

@webhat @blogdiva @Brian

I do understand the industiral farming aspect. I am a proud dairy farm kid, soI knwo what a small carefully tended herd is vs a huge mega farmwhere eachanimal is seen as just profit or loss.

My intent wasn't to glorify anythign except these rams were not just culled and killed.

@Sfwmson @blogdiva @Brian and I think it's wonderful these gay rams were rescued. Thank you for sharing 💜

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Jan 18

INDUSTRIAL.

when Europeans invaded the Américas and went on to try to exterminate one line of my ancestors so they could end up enslaving and importing my other line of ancestors; they did so by calling us, our lands, our flora & fauna as savage, wild, untamed.

BUT TAINOS PRACTICED PERMACULTURE BEFORE A WHITE MAN COLUMBUSED IT. all of the Américas were conucos of one form or other; including alpaca & vicuña wool farming.

DECOLONIZE your concept of farming.

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@webhat @Brian @Sfwmson

@blogdiva @Brian @Sfwmson I have decolonized it, that why I went vegan

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Jan 18

some Nazis practiced veganism. Janseism is one of the ideologies behind the rise of fascism in India. there’s a big contingency of vegans in the fascist MAHA/MAGA movement; inspired by 19th century eugenics. then there’s the very real oxymoron of vegan capitalism.

no. veganism doesn’t decolonize you or your food.

if you cannot imagine a world without private equity owned factory farming of veggie patties; then you need to rethink the culture part of agriculture.

@webhat @Brian @Sfwmson

@blogdiva @webhat @Sfwmson first sentence proves you don't know what veganism is yet are still trying to make a point with it (I think?). You can't be a vegan nazi, it makes no sense if we take veganism to be respecting the rights of non-human animals. Applying basic consistency would show there's something faulty going on. You can't discriminate against one minority and uphold another, that is inconsistent and undoes your supposed trying in the second case, thereby discriminating against them, too. This is seen in parallels between veganism and anti-racism and feminism (And…just basic logical thinking.).

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Jan 18

FWIW: when a contingency of MAHA fascists call themselves vegans, pay attention. why would they do so?

the point is, when you say plants or animals can't consent, you are expressing a worldview that alienates Humanity from nature.

eating isn't a moral dilemma.

capitalism, colonialism, ecocide are moral dilemmas.

we don’t need capitalism, colonialism, ecocide to survive. we need to destroy them to save us all.

don't make eating the problem when it’s greed.

@Brian @webhat @Sfwmson

@blogdiva I think you're seeing ghost posts because your replies aren't making much sense to me. But to reply, because they want to? How am I supposed to know? Lots of reasons could be at play. I don't think it matters what someone calls themselves in such a case. I could call myself a Trump supporter. So? What about it? Anyone can call themselves whatever, that doesn't suddenly change the definition of words. Plants can't consent, though. Animals can consent in a broad sense, but a passed out human can't. A lion could maybe consent to things with other people who speak their language, but they can't give consent to humans. What people eat is a moral dilemma, we live in a society, everything a human does has externalities, you're not living in a vacuum.

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Jan 18

a cooperative point of view of Life wouldn’t see eating as an existential crisis; but as part of our continuum within Nature. and yes, farming is part of nature because humans are part of nature. so we should be doing it not against nature.

all forests are gardened; even the Amazons. the Great Plains were gardened and to this day historians are reluctant to admit that the genocide of Native Americans and buffalo ecocide, caused the Dust Bowl once industrial farming hurt the land.

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Jan 18

FARMING ≠ INDUSTRIAL

corn is a domesticated grass. Originarios were genetic engineering, for millennia, corn, beans, tomatoes, chiles, squashes, potatoes, alpacas, vicuñas.

Europe wouldn’t exist without humans co-evolving along horses, sheep, wheat and other domesticated flora & fauna all across the Eurasian metacontinent.

european farming before feudalism & capitalism was more wholistic & closer to permaculturing.

europeans need to reclaim that agriCULTURE.

@webhat @Brian @Sfwmson

@blogdiva @Brian @Sfwmson 100% agree

@blogdiva @Sfwmson @webhat please read my post again. You seem to have misunderstood its point.
And again, it's no human's business to use the part of another being without their consent.

@Brian @blogdiva @webhat

I thought I read it carefully. And I understand consent, even as it applies to animals.

Would that apply to all living things, though? Or only animals. Legit asking.

I was just adding to the covnersation, not trying to argue. I appreciate your POV.

@Sfwmson @blogdiva @webhat I weren't replying to you but whatever. Living things can't consent. Beings can. A plant (For example.) is not sentient so talking about consent there is ridiculous. Could've been a good idea to remove the other mentions, but it's difficult for me to tell when to leave them up and when to remove them.

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Jan 18

and am making the point you, as a human, are not above evolution.

you exist thanks to the co-evolution of the eurasian metacontinental flora fauna humans are part of.

there was a time when europeans werent as alienated from their environment as they are today.

that’s why we call it agriCULTURE. there were histories, customs, practices rebuked in favor of exploitation, industrialization, capitalism.

reclaim the good which your ancestors rebuked.

@Brian @Sfwmson @webhat

@blogdiva @Sfwmson @webhat what? OK? My post weren't about agriculture.

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦Jan 18

when you say plants nor animals cannot consent (to be eaten), you are talking about agriculture, not just farming.

same with veganism. there is no way to speak of it without speaking of agriculture. it is subset of a plant-based tradition of food production. veganism isn't just a cuisine.

am old enough, i have vegan cookbooks in which WHEAT is s big no-no. it’ the original, spiral-bound Moosewood cookbook, btw.

so, yeah, we be talkin agriculture.

@Brian @Sfwmson @webhat

@blogdiva no, I am talking about objective statements, outside of any space where they're abused. They can't consent to have themselves taken and abused, to be used as food, to experiment on them or to lock them up for others to look at them. Following a plant-based diet is a consequence of veganism, not veganism itself. Veganism is the respect of non-human animals' rights.

@Brian @blogdiva @webhat

Well, I dounderstand that but some would also say plants also are living things and they cannot consent to be used by humans, either!

We'd be in sorry shape, I imagine, if that rule was the guiding rules.

I appreciate this conversation---not vegan or even vegetarian over here but I eat very little meat, and I have a few wool blankets handed down from my Grandparents.

@Sfwmson @Brian I have wool blankets handed down that I cherish too. And because I understand the reality around creating them I look after them, care for them as best I can, and I also wouldn't buy a new one

@Sfwmson plants aren't sentient, animals (Including humans.) are.

Are we sure?😎

I do understand, though.

@Sfwmson that's the scientific consensus, if you or anyone else wants to consider them sentient, you're free to, that doesn't make animals not sentient.

Zen Face Jan 12

I absolutely love this post I want to repost it but it says it's not available. I'm going to see if they have men's sweaters available.

I wonder why. Can you just go to their page and share from there?
I'm trying a different link , I think.

https://rainbow-wool.com/

Rainbow Wool

Rainbow Wool is the first fashion made from the wool of gay sheep to support queer projects across the globe. #🌈🐏

Rainbow Wool Shop

Ghost_Cat Jan 12

@Sfwmson Fascists wish they had a fraction of this power

cammzy_armster Jan 12

good for them

@Sfwmson Ram Ranch really rocks!

M.S. Bellows, Jr.Jan 12

@Sfwmson Ping @thewoodbinewitch

Michael McWilliams Jan 12

@Sfwmson I love this! But even more I love that no matter what they do, 1 out of 12 rams are gay. Proof that you can't breed out gay. 🏳️‍🌈

@MichaelMcWilliams

Well, to be clear, it doesn't say these rams go around mating...they just like the company of other rams!

lkwtelefon Jan 12

@Sfwmson "They are slaughtered for being gay" "Okay, let's exploit them for their wool, not spend a critical thought on that at all and call it a good thing since animal exploration is so normalised in our society" "yay, we are the good guys" "We are amazing! Let's drink cows milk and act morally superior because we think dairy industry can exist outside of mass animal farming"

I understand. Will their wool just shed off if it'snot sheared? I honeslty do not know.
(I didn't need a lesson in how humans use animals, though, but I understand.)

lkwtelefon Jan 12

@Sfwmson Just think about weather or not sheep existed outside of humans.
Did they just die before due to too much wool?
Seems unlikely right?
Can you proof that they enjoy or don't mind being sheared?
Same with cows and being milked.

Sure, there is little to no natural habitat left for them and giving them a new home is a good thing. But using their wool and selling it as a thing that helps them is odd and should be critically re-assessed I think.

I appreciate this comment in that I didn't feel attacked. I honestly don't know if they enjoy shearing or if it ever falls off by itself. That's why I asked.

Please understand I was a farm kid, so yes,bi fully get how animals are used by humans.

lkwtelefon Jan 12

@Sfwmson so let's get to the facts.
Sheep can change their wool themselves.
Or could.
Humans bread some races that can't anymore.
Maybe the gay sheep are those.
They hate shearing thou because they are prey animals who get very anxious when being fixated.

Throwing away the wool wouldn't fix anything but helping to normalize the industry without pointing out the cruel irony behind it all isn't great either.

I am glad you didn't feel attacked.
I am glad we all learned something.