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Linux Archipelago

https://lemmy.world/post/41470567

Jan 11 at 3:50pmWeb
Show threadzonicoJan 11
Add Nixos. Also put Slackware to Valley of the lost
Show threadgensJan 11
Slackware teaches more then debian or arch (trumped only by LFS or old school gentoo). But sure, not many use it.
Show threadslothropJan 11
slackware smirks in the way that only the subgenius can.
praise bob.
Show threadCanuckJan 11
Gamers Bay of course with Steam and Bazzite. If there’s a spot for mobile, Mobian & Postmarket are both top tier
Show threadekZeppJan 11
Steam OS feels more like a ship anchored in the archipelago. Bazzite is Indeed on land.
Show threaddeusJan 11
Why? SteamOS is based on Arch, it belongs here. I think a ship should probably be something like Android.
Show threadCanuckJan 11
Maybe android in the welcome bay outside the disinformation?
Show threadCanuckJan 11
Agreed
Show threadnormonatorJan 11
Lol at arch on the mountain. Every fucking noob goes straight for Arch.
Show threadserpineslairJan 11
Nothing wrong with that, best way to learn the ropes is being chucked into the deep-end imho. Provided of course they are patient and willing to learn.
Show threadWhitebrowJan 11
Thing is, even if you’re not patient and willing to learn, getting dumped into the deep end, struggling for 3 hours and then giving up and “downgrading” to something like mint or bazzite is still a whole lot better than trying to unfuck windows 11 into a workable state.
Show threaddurinnJan 11
“Unfuck into workable state” is gold. Hope it’s open licensed. 🙏
Show threadnormonatorJan 11

Basically this, they rage quit and go back to windows or even a Chromebook. I try to support customers on linux but they need to be talked away from Arch if they are just grtting started.

Arch forces people to learn what MOST dont want to and MOST people shouldn’t need to, just to do basic tasks on a computer.

Switch to Arch later if you’re curious and want the training wheels off, or don’t if you just want to use your pc as an appliance and walk away.

Show threadserpineslairJan 11
That’s a fair take. If they are someone who just simply has no interest in computers and just want something that “just works” then yeah, they definitely shouldn’t be told to get arch. I wasn’t saying noobs should be talked into arch first time round by any means, more so that if they wanna start with arch, there’s nothing wrong with that, and we should do our best to help them learn, instead of calling them noobs and dampening their interest/spirits.
Show threadpmkJan 11
For most computer users, the OS itself isn’t the hobby. It’s a tool that lets them do things like writing, browsing, drawing, gaming, etc, projects of various kinds, concurrently simultaneously for reasons unknown, in a word using their computer. It does not help them to say that ed(1) is the standard editor and that vi is bloated.
Show threadserpineslairJan 11
I agree
Show threadSiegfriedJan 11
Do they really? Most linux users that I know irl use Ubuntu and pretty much don’t know of the existance of other distros.
Show threadfavoredponchoJan 12
A lot of Ubuntu users know of other distros, but they like their free time
Show threadUnrefinedJan 11
Or Kali.
Show threadsunstonedJan 12
Show threadzenJan 12
To be fair, this also represents Debian for me.
Show threadonnekasJan 12

Think of Arch as the distro not as it’s users. Sure you can install Arch as a noob by copy pasting from ArchWiki or nowadays just using fancy install scripts.

However, if you pay attention and maybe fuck up a few times then you will get that knowledge.

Also ArchWiki is a source of knowledge that is valid not only for arch but most other distos as well.

Show threadChemical WonkaJan 11
Fedora deserves its place on Highs of Knowledge. All mighty creator of the kernel uses it
Show threadthe_qJan 11
Lol Arch, btw, is woefully misplaced.
Show threadCeeBee_EhJan 11
How so? The Arch wikis are considered some of the best documentation of any software. So the “Highs of Knowledge” is fitting.
Show threaddurinnJan 11
Gentoo and LFS to the Highs of Knowledge
Show thread𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘Jan 11
Not really Linux, but TempleOS should be in the fog somewhere. Maybe technically off the archipelago, but close enough to be related to it in some way.
Show threadnormonatorJan 11
Add some more height to the image and put it on a temple in the clouds.
Show threadSiegfriedJan 11
This is the way… disconnected from internet and closer to god
Show threadpanda_abyssJan 11
TempleOS actually enspirits a true hacker/unix philosophy, as bizarre as it is. 
Show threadCaptain AggravatedJan 11
The Island of TempleOS is in the middle of the Holy Sea.
Show threadekZeppJan 11
got it 👍
Show threadBaraCodedJan 11
Oh god, I’m in the hidden Manjaro slums
Show threadTealkJan 11
How does Debian get so far up north?
Show threadSiegfriedJan 11
Yeah… how did we get that up north? Im a 15 year debian noob. I just spawn on the top of the mountain apparently and now I live in fear of looking down.
Show threadHuntressHimboJan 11
Gentoo belongs over on the Highs of Knowledge
Show threadprowe45Jan 11
I feel like Raspbian deserves a place on here somewhere, although I’m not sure where exactly. It’s the distro I’ve installed the most times since I like to do Raspberry Pi projects, and I imagine there’s quite a few people out there whose first major exposure to Linux was for the same reason. So maybe it should go near Welcome Bay?
Show threadlattrommiJan 12
A lush verdant field between where the Puppies frolic and the SUSE chameleons’ tree, where the people can harvest ripe Rasbianerries and fresh Mint.
Show threadZombiFrancisJan 11
What distro is represented by the Tux of the Deep there? Just lurking beneath the waves?
Show threadPommes_für_dein_BalgJan 11
Deepin Linux, of course.
Show threadthisbenzingringJan 11
Gentoo should be on an island surrounded by a ring of rocks that makes it almost impossible to get to
Show threadunbuckled_easily933Jan 11
And Arch should definitely NOT be on a Higher peak in the mountains of knowledge than Gentoo.
Show threadpanda_abyssJan 11
Instead of a circus, Ubuntu should be a bunch of people who live in a cave and see the world through shadows on the wall. 
Show threadpanda_abyssJan 11

can you add silver blue and co to the dark forest next to Fedora

I’ve added so much to my OS tree it looks like a forest where you can get lost forever. 

Show threadWillowJan 11
Where is my os? aha. Joke apart, you could add NetBSD somewhere very deep for fun
Show threaddurinnJan 12
What rabbit hole have you lead me down… Now I can’t stop reading about BSD.
Show threadEvil_ShrubberyJan 11
Meanwhile openSUSE is still in Germany, just lederhosen & none of this enchanting tropical nonsense.
Show threadManuJan 11
Hello. One of the oldest Linux distributions, openSUSE, is missing.
Show threadekZeppJan 11
He’s there, is mimetized.
Show threadCaptain AggravatedJan 12
Can you blame a Chameleon for blending in? Look to the right of Fedora.
Show threadManuJan 12
Very good. You’re right.
Show threadmortoJan 11

Where’s the GNU fortress, with trisquel, parabola and others?

Now let’s make an rpg in that map, or maybe a new quest for supertuxkart

Show threadBlaster MJan 11
Move TempleOS to a floating sky temple, and make where it is Portable Bay, where various portable linux ships are moored, named Knoppix (a galleon), Puppy Linux (a fishing boat), Slax (a little sailboat), and TinyCore (a rowboat or kayak)
Show threadSnot FlickermanJan 11
Unraid probably is in the pay resort area as well.
Show threadVoytrekkJan 12
Red Hat as well
Show threadnot_IOJan 11
Void Linux should be between debian and arch as it is “rolling stable release”
Show threadtehn00biJan 12
Void needs a deep dark cave.
Show threadsp3ctr4lJan 12

Fuck, didn’t see your comment, but I made the same comment.

Some kind of cave/canyon area for non system d linux variants.

Show threadmlgJan 11
Kali, ParrotOS, and BlackArch are the B-52s flying overhead out of the frame
Show threadmelfieJan 11

I did Ubuntu > Pop > Kubuntu > Mint > more distro hopping > Mint.

It’s nice living in the beach. 😎