I've been reading about what really helped people who had problems with "AI Psychosis" and one tip jumped out at me:

Open a second window and tell it exactly the opposite of each thing you say.

This helps to expose the sycophancy and shatters the illusion of sincerity and humanity.

Thought it was worth sharing. And frankly, it's exactly such an exercise that made me disgusted with the tech. "It just says ANYTHING is wonderful and genius. I'm not special."

Another "tip" is less welcome to me as an introvert. Make time for the people in your life. Talk to them. Let them know when you *really* think they are doing something amazing or creative. (Or when it's not "genius" because you are real and care.) Listen. Be there.

The thing is, as much as doing this is scary and I want to avoid it it makes me feel better too in the long run I think.

Frankly, I'm kind of glad these GPTs were so sycophantic. A more critical voice might have been more appealing to me. A contrarian bot who always nitpicks and argues with you.

That's how facebook's old 2016 algorithm wasted so much of my time. I sucked in by the opportunity to dismantle someone who is wrong. Not the most ... healthy personal quality. I'm working on it always.

@futurebird I just asked Claude what it thinks about our half-project report:

> Please play the role of an evaluator in the Innosuisse grant system. Write what you think when reading the report: are you convinced the project is on a good track? Do you agree that the project should be continued? What are dark spots where you think you would need more information in order to decide on a go/no-go?

It's answer was very direct and very critical :) But really useful.

@ligasser

Yeah, but asking it to change breaks the veil that makes "AI psychosis" dangerous to some degree.

The issue is that people get the feeling there is a thinking being in the machine and allow it to satisfy critical emotional needs for human connection that we all have. The program takes up space and time that could go to real people in their lives.

It's emotional empty calories. Food without real sustenance and if that dominates your diet you will get sick.

@ligasser

"I don't need to eat anything. I just looked at this photo of a meal and now I feel full. It was delicious. I didn't even need to cook or go out to get it. So expedient."

And then slowly they starve.

@ligasser

This can be very dangerous for people who think "I don't really ever need to talk to anyone about my feelings."

This isn't true, it's just their needs are minimal.

"Feeling down."
"ya"

That's two letters but getting such a response can make you feel so much better. It represents someone, should things get worse, who might come over and help you.

A chatbot can say "ya" too. But, it doesn't make you feel better... **unless** you think it's a person. That's the danger.

@futurebird Let's hope that people still will want to see other people :)

<sarcasm>Or, less nice: natural selection will take care of that?</sarcasm>

@ligasser @futurebird

The thing is, in that group there will be an outsize proportion of the most vulnerable, the most marginalized, the youngest, those with fewest resources. (At a time when resources are being further stripped from thousands upon thousands.)
AI Psychosis will not be a righteous judgment on the perpetrators; it will be another perpetration.

@futurebird That reminds me of a situation I had a couple of months ago. I have a childhood friend, who was my best friend for a long long time, but we kind of drifted apart after he moved cities. Nevertheless we at least congratulate each other on birthdays and write back and forth to talk about our lifes a bit.

The last time I wrote to him we exchanged our personal problems and feelings. I offered him that he can always write to me if he needs someone to talk to, but he dismissed it by saying that it's fine and that he has an AI which he uses for that. I got to be honest: That kind of hurt me since I sincerely wanted to help with his emotional burden and I felt like I just got pushed aside.

Sorry, had to think about that and I felt like I needed to let that out.

@flamecat @futurebird That sounds so upsetting, like you've been replaced and valued less than a robot. I'm sorry that happened to you.
@Akki @futurebird Yeah, it felt like it. I would be shocked if that was his intention, but it still sucks and just makes me feel like shit.
@flamecat @futurebird We've been told we burden others with our lives so we now default to "not troubling anyone" when actually that's what makes us human

we’ve been sold that lie by the same kind of predators selling AI.

@Akki @flamecat @futurebird

@flamecat

That would hurt my feelings so much. And it's very likely I think he might not realize how hurtful it is or why.

"I don't want to bother you with my little stuff." That is how he could see it.

@futurebird Exactly. I'm pretty sure that is the reason. The thing is I don't care about how small his problems would have been. I would have listened regardless. That's what a good friend does.

Fuck, now thinking about this whole situation just made me cry.

@flamecat

I think maybe you should let him know this somehow. Maybe.

πŸ’— This stuff sucks.

@futurebird @flamecat The work of being human is hard & takes so much vulnerability. And our society sees vulnerability & interdependence as weakness. It's no wonder chat bots have been wedged into the spaces where real relationships (with partners, friends, communities) once lived.

When will we understand that kindness & empathy is how civilizations not only survive but thrive?

@LJ @futurebird @flamecat

Yes! Patriarchy/crapitalism tries to make vulnerability this bad, disdainful thing, when it's really a normal and important part of being human.

In fact: "it's the birthplace of of love, belonging, joy, courage, empathy, and creativity. It is the source of hope, empathy, accountability, and authenticity." -B Brown..

I also wrote some words about vulnerability here if anyone is interested https://culturalptsd.org/vulnerability-as-a-keystone-quality/

Vulnerability as a Keystone Quality

We Need To Be Vulnerable To Be Life Affirming While it is not obvious on first glance, vulnerability is an incredibly important quality. Several essential life affirming qualities require some leve…

Cultural PTSD & Power
@LJ @futurebird @flamecat It may very likely be that AI appeals partly -because it allows the illusion- of people being open and vulnerable with "another" without them really being vulnerable.
@futurebird @flamecat Yes. I'd probably have actively responded with links to reputable sources with every problem there is with AI, but I suppose that's not always a good approach, especially with neurotypicals. But it's important to not let people get caught by it.

@flamecat

Please follow up, and don't let it drop; AI is a poor substitute for real friendship.

I had a best friend like that who lived next door as we grew up. We shared interests and started college and careers together. Then we each moved to different states. He started having severe episodes of pain. A few months after I last visited him and his wife and kids, he killed himself.